Big Dan posted this

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I just received another E-mail from Warren Entsches Secretary in it she mentions that you cannot get
portability if is decided that you are capable of 2hrs work a week, Ive seen it mentioned in these forums before but I never read it from a Government source !

If someone can explain how I can move an E-mail to here, I will post it, or if Banjo can message me an E-mail link/address I will forward him a copy.

dan

Seems this is EXACTLY what some members need to know.
He has had no replys so far,other than mine?

Anyone??
Cheers

[Seano]

Can you copy and paste the text of the email into an editor like Notepad or Wordpad?


Then you can copy it back as the plain text in a post on the forum

[Banjo]

Send it to [e-mail]

Everyone seems to be having a little play with the wording.
Here's the ministerial press release.

The Bill also introduces new, more generous rules from 1 July this year that allow DSP recipients who have a severe and permanent disability and no future work capacity to travel overseas for more than 13 weeks while retaining access to their pension.

Here's the budget statement.

Budget 2011-12: Indefinite portability for permanently disabled Disability Support Pension recipients who have no work capacity
Description of the measure

From 1 July 2012, people with a permanent disability who receive Disability Support Pension (DSP) and have no future work capacity and who wish to leave Australia to be with friends and family will remain payable outside Australia indefinitely.

DSP customers who leave Australia and wish to remain payable under this new measure for more than 13 weeks will be required to have a new work capacity assessment before their departure. This measure acknowledges that DSP customers should be able to continue receiving income support outside Australia where there is no expectation of workforce participation.

Currently, DSP is generally only payable for the first 13 weeks of a temporary absence from Australia. After 13 weeks, DSP is suspended and subsequently cancelled if the customer has not returned to Australia.

This measure will provide health cost savings and ease the demand on nursing home places and aged care facilities in Australia.

And here's the legislation.

1218AAA Unlimited portability period for disability support pension—severely impaired disability support pensioner

(1) The Secretary may make a written determination that a particular person’s maximum portability period for disability support pension is an unlimited period, if all of the following circumstances (the qualifying circumstances ) exist:

(a) the person is receiving disability support pension;

(b) the Secretary is satisfied that the person’s impairment is a severe impairment (within the meaning of subsection 94(3B));

(c) the Secretary is satisfied that the person will have that severe impairment for at least the next 5 years;

(d) the Secretary is satisfied that, if the person were in Australia, the severe impairment would prevent the person from performing any work independently of a program of support (within the meaning of subsection 94(4)) within the next 5 years.

So where does it say 2 hours a week?


All it says is NO FUTURE WORK CAPACITY.

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With all due respect,

just received another E-mail from Warren Entsches Secretary in it she mentions that you cannot get
portability if is decided that you are capable of 2hrs work a week,

Can you help him post it,be appreciated.

Cheers

[Seano]

Oct 15, 2012 22:02:14 GMT 7 stream said:

With all due respect,

just received another E-mail from Warren Entsches Secretary in it she mentions that you cannot get
portability if is decided that you are capable of 2hrs work a week,

Can you help him post it,be appreciated.

Cheers

Forward to my email address at [e-mail] and I will use discretion and post the texts back here in this thread. Banker is someone I know well from this town in person and aseanXXXX is a play on Sean Moran, which is my name. I opened that email account on the 8th of August 2008 which was the opening day of the Beijing Olympics and also the 41st birthday of ASEAN which was why I changed the letters around in my name for good reason.

Send me the email to [e-mail] and I'll post the text back in this thread in the morning.

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Goodnight

Edit to take out email address!!!

[scallywag]

But what are the interventions mentioned here,at the end. The answer to this may/will determine whether someone applies or not.

guidesacts.fahcsia.gov.au/guides_acts/ssg/ssguide-7/ssguide-7.1/ssguide-7.1.1/ssguide-7.1.1.10.html


Except for a manifest grant, DSP recipients applying for indefinite portability under these provisions will be required to undergo the JCA processes. For a person to meet the DSP portability work capacity test they will need to be assessed as having no future work capacity. This requirement will be met, if the JCA indicates that, based on the evidence and the assessor's professional opinion, it is unlikely that the person will have any capacity to undertake work in the open employment market at or above the relevant minimum wage in the next 5 years, even with interventions.

[Banker]

Note to all members;

Please do not put email address on display or use any members real name as we know that Big Brother is watching.

Thank you.

[Banjo]

Oct 15, 2012 22:02:14 GMT 7 stream said:

With all due respect,

just received another E-mail from Warren Entsches Secretary in it she mentions that you cannot get
portability if is decided that you are capable of 2hrs work a week,

Can you help him post it,be appreciated.

Cheers

I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, this 2 hour threat was being made by Centrelink staff before the UP became law.
I have an email from Welfare Rights supporting our stance on this which I'm currently going mad trying to find.

[Banker]

Oct 16, 2012 7:27:36 GMT 7 Banjo said:

Oct 15, 2012 22:02:14 GMT 7 stream said:

With all due respect,

just received another E-mail from Warren Entsches Secretary in it she mentions that you cannot get
portability if is decided that you are capable of 2hrs work a week,

Can you help him post it,be appreciated.

Cheers

I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, this 2 hour threat was being made by Centrelink staff before the UP became law.
I have an email from Welfare Rights supporting our stance on this which I'm currently going mad trying to find.

Its filed under L for lost. ;D

[Banjo]

More likely under AD for accidentally deleted.

We need more people to get onto Welfare Rights about this, whenever I ring them now I seem to draw the most inexperienced volunteer in the office; the more members we have creating work for them the more likely we are to get them to support us.

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Oct 16, 2012 7:27:36 GMT 7 Banjo said:

Oct 15, 2012 22:02:14 GMT 7 stream said:

With all due respect,

just received another E-mail from Warren Entsches Secretary in it she mentions that you cannot get
portability if is decided that you are capable of 2hrs work a week,

Can you help him post it,be appreciated.

Cheers

I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, this 2 hour threat was being made by Centrelink staff before the UP became law.
I have an email from Welfare Rights supporting our stance on this which I'm currently going mad trying to find.

Thanks Banjo,
your a good man.

Cheers

[Seano]

Oct 16, 2012 6:42:48 GMT 7 Banker said:

Note to all members;

Please do not put email address on display or use any members real name as we know that Big Brother is watching.

Thank you.

Thank you for helping when I got too excited helping out. I won't do that again, and I woke up this morning and worried if I had gone too far, so thanks for helping me with some of my overzealous intentions. I knew I went to far the moment I woke up this morning.

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Thank you again and goodnight. Staying up late is not going to help me save for an airfare,

[Denis-NFA]

Its filed under L for lost. ;D

Try looking under P for p*ssed off; or
A for ars**oles.