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Post by reddingo on May 5, 2013 9:30:44 GMT 7
No Banker, I did'nt get an email about any hotel though you did put a link to the Banchang hotel on this site. Adrian
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Post by Banker on May 5, 2013 11:22:41 GMT 7
I will send you a PM.
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Post by fedup on May 5, 2013 12:38:23 GMT 7
‘no work capacity’ test are yet to be defined.
So if it is yet to be defined how the hell can they make a determination on something that has not yet been defined,for FArx sake
DEFIES ALL LOGIC
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Post by Banjo on May 5, 2013 13:00:41 GMT 7
That was before the legislation passed, it's well and truly been defined now.
As usual, it's what Centrelink want it to be.
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Post by blahblahblah on May 5, 2013 13:02:49 GMT 7
Ha ha ha, blahblahblah you should never have put that George Carlin link on here as I have been laughing so much my stomach is hurting like hell. Funny but so true. Adrian That post seems a bit out of place now as the previous post was deleted, but glad you liked it. |
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Post by fedup on May 5, 2013 13:48:42 GMT 7
Yet to get a written answer stating its definition,oh I forgot it changes to suit.Please link me to that specific piece of legislation,as I am currently on overload
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Post by Banjo on May 5, 2013 15:33:49 GMT 7
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Post by fedup on May 5, 2013 17:24:08 GMT 7
Sorry nothing I haven't seen before some of which is TOTALY irrelevant,going around in circles.
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Post by flyer on May 5, 2013 21:17:33 GMT 7
‘no work capacity’ test are yet to be defined. So if it is yet to be defined how the hell can they make a determination on something that has not yet been defined,for FArx sake DEFIES ALL LOGIC From what i read in www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2013C00081/Html/Volume_3#_Toc347498734 is that for UP you have to have no capacity for ANY WORK independant of a program of support. It then says for this section WORK means: (a) that is on wages that are at or above the relevant minimum wage; and (b) that exists in Australia, even if not within the person’s locally accessible labour market. There are no hours rules for UP, ignore 0-7hrs and 8-15hrs for UP, that is only for qualification of dsp. If you can work in open market employment for 1 hour then technically you wouldn't qualify for UP as one hour is more than ANY WORK. Don't know if that answers your question |
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Post by fedup on May 6, 2013 3:07:25 GMT 7
Ok,you say there are NO hours rules for UP, then you mention 1hr in open market?  If there are no hours rules ,then how can they make an assessment on what they ASSUME you can work. ? Qualification for DSP contradicts itself, on one hand it says,must be unable to work 15hrs or more,blah blah,then they assess you on the whim of an assessor,0-7 ,8-15,etc,which stymies you for UP Assessor COMPLETLY ignored two separate super payouts due to two unsuccessful operations,rendering me unable to work,also ignored Two separate TPD payouts in regards the same . All requirements under their tables are met, ie,severe impairment,STABILISED and permanent ,no improvement and will deteriorate over the next 5 years, The barrier to UP is this ASSUMED able to work assessment ,of residual work capacity of between 8 and 14 hrs per week, |
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Post by flyer on May 6, 2013 12:04:47 GMT 7
I was using 1hr as an example of being more than not being able to do ANY work, i'm not saying there are no hours rules, the legislation that i linked to says no capacity for ANY work, it doesn't say less than 15hrs or less than 8 hours, it says no capacity for any work. I'm just trying to give you the definition of work capacity for UP as written in the legislation.
Sorry about using the term "open market" it was a shortened way of saying "that is on wages that are at or above the relevant minimum wage"
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Post by fedup on May 6, 2013 12:22:22 GMT 7
Look I understand what you are saying,the point is ,as I have said repeatedly, Qualification for DSP contradicts itself, on one hand it says,must be unable to work 15hrs or more,blah blah,then they assess you on the whim of an assessor,0-7 ,8-15,etc,which stymies you for UP
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Post by anthonydsp on May 6, 2013 13:34:35 GMT 7
well that means il have a good shot at up i was assessed at 40 points with 0-7 hours no future work capacity and no retraining in a support program or work retraining i applied for up in march and had my jca in april so im awaiting to hear the outcome in mid june but il be overseas by then
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Post by fedup on May 6, 2013 14:58:08 GMT 7
Sounds very promising,good luck.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 8:34:51 GMT 7
well that means il have a good shot at up i was assessed at 40 points with 0-7 hours no future work capacity and no retraining in a support program or work retraining i applied for up in march and had my jca in april so im awaiting to hear the outcome in mid june but il be overseas by then Good Luck Anthony: Stay safe on your travels old mate and don't forget to let us know how you went:) |
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