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Post by bangalorebiker on Mar 12, 2013 10:43:45 GMT 7
top marks for good old centrelink,, there real rocket scientists working there in centrelink,, i got my unlimited portability last year, last month i tell them i am out of here for 6 months, today i get a large letter from centrelink international requesting i go for another assement  ? now more stress on the frigging phone straighting out there stuff upp's, the sooner i'm out of here or dead the better,,,, putting up with the crap in this country is turning me into a stark raving hermit if i stayed here much longer putting up with burocratic crap i'm liable to go right around the twist. |
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Post by Banjo on Mar 12, 2013 11:08:22 GMT 7
That's amazing BB, what are you supposed to being assessed for this time?
Are you overseas now?
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Post by melnee on Mar 12, 2013 13:23:33 GMT 7
WHAT don't they have dictionaries ? UNLIMITED do they know the meaning of the word ? Why do you have to even tell them you are going away if you have UP ? Centrelink refused me for Payment Pending Review because "I wont give it to you because you are o/s (I have already lodged an SSAT) I was lied to in the 1st place & was told by an ARO that I couldn't apply for Payment Pending Review until I lodged an SSAT & that I have to ask the SSAT to give me payment pending review when the dickhead ARO, & I have seen this in their own staff e reference books, supplied by a report from the Ombudsmans office, that the ARO should have offered it to me during his review (& he should not have been reviewing my application for extension on medical grounds as it should be done by a C3 level or above & this idiot is in QLD & when questioned with this replied with uuummsssss oh well I have it now) The guy who refused my PPR today told me I had no where to go to appeal his decision nor can I escalate it. I have now put a complaint into Centrelink Customer Relations who had a quick look & took my complaint & has escalated it to a manager, I will receive a phone call within 3 business days re his denial of PPR. & I'm still sitting o/s needing an op so I can fly back to Australia. I don't have any money, can't pay for my normal meds & can't pay to extend my visa etc etc etc, they don't care "because I am overseas" They keep saying. I have caught them out in writing on breaching privacy laws, the mental health act, duty of care, breaches of my human rights under U.N law & they still think I'm going to get In the words of the Ombudsman "Appeal Fatigue" I can email anyone the report from the Commonwealth Ombudsman that has case studies where C/L has F##$% up & excerpts from centrelink e references & it shows how C/L continually tries to & looks like they are trained to give clients Appeal Fatigue so they give up & don't keep trying, it may be helpful, I am also waiting a call back from the Ombudsman's office as in this this report it shows that you can contact the Ombudsman before appeals process if neccessary & that when they investigate complaints, miracles happen & they follow the ombudsman advice & mostly the client wins/decisions change, after a phone call from ombudsman. If anyone can tell me how to I will put it on here. Don't wait for c/l to sort their shit out re UP or anything else as we now have their internal training re "getting rid of us asap using illegal techniques. |
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Post by melnee on Mar 12, 2013 13:27:07 GMT 7
I too often feel it I would be better off dead than deal with c/l. Especially when I can't get back to Oz & if I stay here I might end up in an Indonesian prison for overstay on my visa, thanks to a centrelink employee's OPINION of my case that they cannot back up with any laws or proof but they are still (this all started b4 Christmas) keeping my payment suspended.
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Post by bangalorebiker on Mar 13, 2013 4:11:37 GMT 7
well after getting jerked about for 30 minutes on the dog n bone (phone to all the unozzies) with centrelink international i was told "sorry we sent that out by mistake throw it away" well well well so much for efficiency lol, so seeing that we do not get a letter sent to us in black n white from centrelink international telling us that we have unlimited portability what is stopping them stuffing things up completly and denying that unlimited portability was ever granted to the ones that now have it?? what happens if all there computers crash deleteing files etc??? no i feel that at least we should demand a letter from centrelink telling us we have unlimited portability, the bloke i spoke to yesterday was an ozzi (thank christ for that usually some non englishy speekee furriner answers there phone and tries to explain things to you in baby lingo) well the ozzi bloke went throught to other departments of centrelink international and finally got back to me,, he was helpfull and understandable on phone, he did mention to me that the laws for portability could change depending on the government and if there is a change in near future of our tin pot rulers in sillybilly house etc so i guess we better keep voting for the presant clowns n court jesters
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Post by Banjo on Mar 13, 2013 7:02:11 GMT 7
One again, the left hand knows not what the right is doing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 13:14:43 GMT 7
Go in and get yr 10 page JCA file like I did and as Banjo-Banker suggested all along, Bangalorebiker! However; dont accept any feeble attempt of a single page with green marker through one line as they tried with me old mate; get the actual assessment file, Ok? Once you have that securely tucked away, then God help anyone who trys to take it away again in the future! Listen to B&B the wise ones, and I dont think we can go very far wrong. I also gave all my C/L files to my correspondence nominee, my sister; who can act on my behalf while I'm away! Dont give the bastards a leg to stand on, and if they want to come back to fight you with one leg; then push the bastards over and kick them while their down. Every military and prize fighter in the world is always preparing for their next fight or battle, and just because we have "IP"; then how can we not prepare for the next battle mate, that we know as sure as shit will come again one day? Good Luck Mate... Cheetal:))
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Post by bangalorebiker on Mar 13, 2013 15:05:51 GMT 7
yes thanks cheetal, your advice about getting the full 10 page JCA file is good idea but old son when a man lives out in the sticks a long way from any annoying idiots and the roads are dirt full of corrugation n bulldust it shakes the old body around hitting them potholes n corrugation at great speeds in my pushy wheelchair mate, on the bitcherment i get a grand speed up but up n down in the corrugation ruts on a dirt road is like back in my rodeo days trying to hang on to a bucking horse mate,, especially when i'm in a wheelchair beep bopping down the road n a bloody road train thunders past covering me with a coating of bulldust n rocks, any how i guess if i rang centrelink it would be bloody hopeless and get another run around, so next time i feel like hitchhiking into the big smoke i'll go front them at centrelink about the 10 page JCA, cheetal do they give it to you on the spot or stuff you around more by insisting on posting it out to you? again thanks for the heads up mate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 8:11:42 GMT 7
I went to the office mate but they tried to fob me off with a single page with a green felt pen through one line, as I said above. So with Banjo's words ringing in my ears, I politely asked for the full assessment! The woman actually said "Your not allowed to have that!"; "Excuse me?" was my reply.... "Go and sit over at that empty desk" she then said, obviously after she read I have aggression issues (Never in C/L offices). As I did and sat, she walked over to her superior and I fired a volley of questions about making me sit in the naughty corner, toward the three women gathered there! The 'Boss Lady', then said to return in one hour for the forms. Why couldn't they just print them out there and then BB; got me stuffed? When I returned after a phone call from this crone; she said re-stand back in line and which I did. She saw my return and walked the papers out to me. So they play games to our face, what are they likely to do in the post? Hope you get what you want anyway you have to arrange it, and stay away from road-trains mate; they bite:)) Take care B-Biker... Cheetal...
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Post by Banjo on Mar 14, 2013 9:06:22 GMT 7
Great work mate, if we've achieved nothing else here at least we've got people standing up to Centrelink.
I just wish they would realise that dealing with well informed people works out easier in the long run than fobbing off people who don't know their rights.
(Read 110,000 successful appeals in 1 year, most that could have fixed at the counter).
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Post by fedup on Mar 23, 2013 0:14:55 GMT 7
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Post by fedup on Mar 27, 2013 15:56:19 GMT 7
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? now more stress on the frigging phone straighting out there stuff upp's, the sooner i'm out of here or dead the better,,,, putting up with the crap in this country is turning me into a stark raving hermit if i stayed here much longer putting up with burocratic crap i'm liable to go right around the twist. 
