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Post by Denis-NFA on Feb 13, 2014 13:42:02 GMT 7
- We will see how this pans out but it is good to see Shorten is asking the question PRIME Minister Tony Abbott says he stands by all of the coalition's commitments made before the 2013 election. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten asked Mr Abbott in question time whether he stood by his promise not to cut funding to education, health, the ABC, SBS or pensions or change the GST. "If there is one lesson that members opposite should have learned from the experience of the previous term of parliament is you cannot say one thing before an election and do something different afterwards," Mr Abbott told parliament. "If this government says something, it means it. We will keep our commitments." www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/pm-abbott-stands-by-no-cuts-promise/story-fn3dxiwe-1226826251318 |
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Post by fedup on Feb 13, 2014 15:40:22 GMT 7
Hmmmmm
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 15:51:20 GMT 7
When ABBott said he promised not to cut pensions he must have meant only the aged pension because he said recently it will be left alone while the DSP will be in the firing line in the budget
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Post by zingzingzing on Feb 13, 2014 16:30:48 GMT 7
When ABBott said he promised not to cut pensions he must have meant only the aged pension because he said recently it will be left alone while the DSP will be in the firing line in the budget Yup, you have to read between the lines, it was Kevin Andrews that said over 60 will not be touched. Everyone under 60, your screwed. www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-21/federal-govt-says-welfare-system-is-unsustainable/5210006I noticed that he seemed to combine all payments in this paragraph here: "Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews says a new report shows income support payments are now costing the Government $70 billion a year and he is concerned they are becoming unsustainable." DSP costs $15 billion per year. $36 billion per year for Age Pension. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 16:48:17 GMT 7
When ABBott said he promised not to cut pensions he must have meant only the aged pension because he said recently it will be left alone while the DSP will be in the firing line in the budget Yup, you have to read between the lines, it was Kevin Andrews that said over 60 will not be touched. Everyone under 60, your screwed. www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-21/federal-govt-says-welfare-system-is-unsustainable/5210006I noticed that he seemed to combine all payments in this paragraph here: "Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews says a new report shows income support payments are now costing the Government $70 billion a year and he is concerned they are becoming unsustainable." DSP costs $15 billion per year. $36 billion per year for Age Pension. l thought they said they are targeting people under 40 on the DSP, so l guess maybe over 40's could be left alone for now. |
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Post by zingzingzing on Feb 13, 2014 17:32:20 GMT 7
Yup, you have to read between the lines, it was Kevin Andrews that said over 60 will not be touched. Everyone under 60, your screwed. www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-21/federal-govt-says-welfare-system-is-unsustainable/5210006I noticed that he seemed to combine all payments in this paragraph here: "Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews says a new report shows income support payments are now costing the Government $70 billion a year and he is concerned they are becoming unsustainable." DSP costs $15 billion per year. $36 billion per year for Age Pension. l thought they said they are targeting people under 40 on the DSP, so l guess maybe over 40's could be left alone for now. I think you are correct, my memory of what is said and kept up by these people is crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 15:23:00 GMT 7
Abbotts already embarrassed by the big rise in unemployment hopefully he will think twice about adding to it by trying to shift people off the DSP onto newstart
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Post by Denis-NFA on Feb 14, 2014 16:26:01 GMT 7
l thought they said they are targeting people under 40 on the DSP, so l guess maybe over 40's could be left alone for now. I think you are right @frugle and I do think they are and will target under 40's. Because our pensions are on the same line in the Constitution as OAP they cannot reduce our Pension without reducing the OAP. But of course 'they' will try to move as many folk off DSP as they possibly can, even if it pumps up the unemployment numbers. Sickness Allowance will be a growth segment for prospective and ex DSP recipients because it is a little reported number at the moment. |
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Post by zorro1 on Feb 16, 2014 20:36:30 GMT 7
When ABBott said he promised not to cut pensions he must have meant only the aged pension because he said recently it will be left alone while the DSP will be in the firing line in the budget ''I want to give people this absolute assurance: no cuts to education, no cuts to health, no changes to pensions and no changes to the GST,'' he told host Barrie Cassidy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 2:55:17 GMT 7
When ABBott said he promised not to cut pensions he must have meant only the aged pension because he said recently it will be left alone while the DSP will be in the firing line in the budget ''I want to give people this absolute assurance: no cuts to education, no cuts to health, no changes to pensions and no changes to the GST,'' he told host Barrie Cassidy. l guess his not exactly the first politican in history to lie, l guess they see theres less votes to lose in attacking the DSP then the old age pension. |
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Post by latindancer on Feb 17, 2014 7:39:40 GMT 7
''I want to give people this absolute assurance: Yes, they lie. But the thing is...... he said : "an _ABSOLUTE_ assurance" |
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Post by scallywag on Feb 17, 2014 7:54:39 GMT 7
''I want to give people this absolute assurance: Yes, they lie. But the thing is...... he said : "an _ABSOLUTE_ assurance" But, was it written down? |
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Post by Banjo on Feb 17, 2014 8:01:23 GMT 7
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Post by zorro1 on Feb 17, 2014 11:00:09 GMT 7
"Prime Minister Tony Abbott has no plans to sign off on changes to the disability support pension even though the $15 billion-a-year payment has been targeted for cuts by two of his senior ministers"
Its also how the reporter has interpreted it as well
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