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Post by Banjo on May 14, 2014 15:01:47 GMT 7
There is a wise saying about more heat than light. I found this great place recently, and have learned quite a good deal of valuable information and advice, however there are some amongst us who are unhelpful, at best in their postings. Please be more measured in your tone, as there are people among us seeking answers to their questions. Now, "dspworried". I am also deemed as having a permanent and severe disability and no future work capacity. I am overseas in the Philippines, where I am getting Registered Nursing care that I am paying for from my DSP payment, which is my only source of income. When I applied to go overseas in late 2012, the Centrelink staff at Nundah QLD went through the steps involved very carefully to make sure I understood everything, then they showed me on their computer screen my status of having a permanent and severe disability and no future work capacity, then they started the application process, which was successful for me to travel overseas unlimited with no return requirements. I would suggest that you go and visit your local Centrelink office to verify your DSP status, and query your particular compliance requirements. Thanks for your contribution keepyourchinup. What I would like you to keep in mind is that our members are on the DSP for diverse reasons. Those who have mental health issues often have trouble putting their thought into words, they may become repetitive or over fearful. This forum will not penalise for them for that and ask other members for understanding and tolerance, they are entitled to a voice here as much as the eloquent. I would say that what the Centrelink staff have done is fast tracked your UP application, was there any mention of a Manifest Grant? |
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Post by keepyourchinup on May 14, 2014 15:40:38 GMT 7
Hi Banjo. Thanks for the "heads up", and the excellent work you are doing here. Magic stuff, and much needed!
No, I have never heard of the term "Manifest Grant".
Yes, my UP application due to the seriousness of my lung health problems.
Best wishes to you.
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Post by dakota on May 15, 2014 16:59:43 GMT 7
From 1 January 2015, recipients of the DSP who travel overseas for more than four weeks in a twelve month period will need to reapply for the payment
There is some confusion. They are on one hand saying that you need to reapply for payment. NOT actually saying that your pension will be cancelled. ie. That your payment will be stopped whilst overseas and that you reapply for payment not reapply for pension eligibility
Does anybody have anything more accurate?
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Post by kimmy on May 15, 2014 20:58:38 GMT 7
Yes...It seems that if one is absent from Australia for more than 4 weeks, then they would have to re-apply. I wonder if multiple trips within the four week period are allowed.
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Post by Banjo on May 15, 2014 21:02:42 GMT 7
I couldn't see any problem if it consisted of 2@2 weeks or 4@1 week as long as it was within the 12 month period.
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Post by itsmylife08 on May 15, 2014 21:08:22 GMT 7
I couldn't see any problem if it consisted of 2@2 weeks or 4@1 week as long as it was within the 12 month period. Sorry boss but I beg to differ as I have a wife and daughter in the phiippines not sure what the future holds  |
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Post by dakota on May 15, 2014 22:29:39 GMT 7
Yes...It seems that if one is absent from Australia for more than 4 weeks, then they would have to re-apply. I wonder if multiple trips within the four week period are allowed. Issue remains reapply for payment or have to re-apply for entire pension. This is what is not clear. The ministers statement says reapply for payment? What does this mean? |
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Post by kimmy on May 15, 2014 23:35:57 GMT 7
I think it needs to be clarified. Limiting DSP travel overseas is so unfair.
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Post by dakota on Jul 25, 2014 13:02:49 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 15:03:09 GMT 7
That's rather arbitrary!
If someone was overseas before the budget and wasn't even aware of the possible changes, though booked before they came home.
I know, I know, the rules are the rules. Just sayin'.
Cheers bear 
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Post by itsmylife08 on Jul 25, 2014 18:55:45 GMT 7
That's rather arbitrary!
If someone was overseas before the budget and wasn't even aware of the possible changes, though booked before they came home.
I know, I know, the rules are the rules. Just sayin'.
Cheers bear
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Post by itsmylife08 on Jul 25, 2014 19:02:03 GMT 7
I booked and paid for my trip on the 13th June I fly out on the 22nd December and return on the 30th January which is within the current 6 week limit. From what you guys are saying I'm risking my pension here tell me I'm reading it wrongly
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Post by blacktulipvampire on Jul 25, 2014 19:48:48 GMT 7
I booked and paid for my trip on the 13th June I fly out on the 22nd December and return on the 30th January which is within the current 6 week limit. From what you guys are saying I'm risking my pension here tell me I'm reading it wrongly From what I have been told by CLinkHobart and DSS:- IF the legislation gets passed:- If you leave b4 Dec31st ( which you are ) then you'll get your 6 weeks, but when you return Jan 30th you will then have to wait another 12 months for your next trip. Note: at present, you can stay beyond 6 weeks unpaid for a further 13 weeks. This is not expected to be available for trips that extend into Jan 2015. SO.... I'd make VERY sure you are back in time. Your dates are just in the 6 weeks. I think they count the day you leave as a day away. I assume the day you get back is counted as a full day. If you miss your flight for anything other than extreme circumstances (ie natural disaster, in hospital etc), you wont get an extension. So... If you will be staying in the same city as the flight leaves from, make sure you leave an extra couple of hours to allow for traffic jams etc. If you will be staying away from the city, I would even consider going to the city the day/night before and staying in a hotel near the airport. But that's just me. I'd be leaving as little to chance as possible, esp if you're flying on an airline that tends to be fully booked most flights. |
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Post by dakota on Aug 10, 2014 4:34:23 GMT 7
 The good news is CL is allowing travel up until Jan 1 2016 on the old 6 week plan (provided you booked before the budget dateand at least made some payment in a deposit) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 5:39:15 GMT 7
I think it needs to be clarified. Limiting DSP travel overseas is so unfair. In my opinion the worst part about it isn't so much cutting off DSP payment after 4 weeks but making people have to reapply for the DSP if they stay more then 4 weeks, the liberals say they don't want people spending their pension money overseas then why cant someone stay overseas a few months without the DSP and live off their own savings or sell an asset to finance it. If they do that under these rules they have to go through all the stress and hassle of reapplying for the DSP, which is just totally pointless, seems like its just punishing people for being on the DSP. l want to go overseas for 3 weeks in July 2015 to visit relatives so l should be OK under the current rules l just hope in next years budget they don't make it even worse. like two weeks |
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