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Post by highlander4000 on Jun 24, 2014 15:41:27 GMT 7
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Post by ideas on Jun 24, 2014 17:31:28 GMT 7
This is an excerpt of the news article in the guardian:
On Tuesday the opposition moved to amend the bills in the lower house to remove: the stripping of income support from unemployed people under 30, the raising of the pension age to 70, the axing of the seniors supplement, the freezing of the payments rates for Family Tax Benefits and the stripping of FTB B from families once their youngest child turns six.
The Australian Council of Social Services (Acoss) has previously recommended scrapping the seniors supplement, worth about $800 per year to Commonwealth Seniors Health Card (CSHC) holders, calling it an “inequitable and wasteful program” which benefits relatively well off older people.
Labor has also declared it opposes cutting the Parenting Payment; extending the waiting period for certain payments, including the dole; changing the indexations of the Age Pension, the Disability Support Pension, Veterans’ pension and the Carer payment; axing the Pensioner Education Supplement; raising the age of eligibility for Newstart to 25; freezing FTB indexation; and removing backdating of the Disability Pension for Veterans.
Explaining its support of the other measures, the shadow minister for families and payments, Jenny Macklin, said the party supported measures that are responsible savings “without leaving vulnerable Australians worse off”.
As well as cutting the Youth Allowance to students who go overseas and lowering the eligibility threshold for FTB B, Labor will support including untaxed superannuation income in the assessment for the CSHC; pausing asset tests for student payments, pensions and working age allowances; scrapping relocation assistance for students moving from one major city to another; and ending indexation of the Clean Energy Supplement.
Macklin did not say if the party would support or oppose reviewing recipients of DSP who became eligible between 2007 and 2011.
Cutting welfare to unemployed people under 30 for months at a time has garnered opposition from many corners of the Senate with Day, the Greens and the leader of the Palmer United party, Clive Palmer, all publicly denouncing it.
IT APPEARS THAT THE OVERSEAS DSPers HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT BY JENNY MACKLIN AND THE ALP !!!
THESE BILLS AND ALP AMENDMENTS ARE BEING DEBATED NOW IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: 8.30 PM AUSTRALIAN EASTERN TIME: YOU CAN CLICK ON THE AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT SITE AND WATCH THE DEBATE LIVE !!!
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Post by ideas on Jun 24, 2014 17:44:04 GMT 7
This is an excerpt of the news article in the guardian:
On Tuesday the opposition moved to amend the bills in the lower house to remove: the stripping of income support from unemployed people under 30, the raising of the pension age to 70, the axing of the seniors supplement, the freezing of the payments rates for Family Tax Benefits and the stripping of FTB B from families once their youngest child turns six.
The Australian Council of Social Services (Acoss) has previously recommended scrapping the seniors supplement, worth about $800 per year to Commonwealth Seniors Health Card (CSHC) holders, calling it an “inequitable and wasteful program” which benefits relatively well off older people.
Labor has also declared it opposes cutting the Parenting Payment; extending the waiting period for certain payments, including the dole; changing the indexations of the Age Pension, the Disability Support Pension, Veterans’ pension and the Carer payment; axing the Pensioner Education Supplement; raising the age of eligibility for Newstart to 25; freezing FTB indexation; and removing backdating of the Disability Pension for Veterans.
Explaining its support of the other measures, the shadow minister for families and payments, Jenny Macklin, said the party supported measures that are responsible savings “without leaving vulnerable Australians worse off”.
As well as cutting the Youth Allowance to students who go overseas and lowering the eligibility threshold for FTB B, Labor will support including untaxed superannuation income in the assessment for the CSHC; pausing asset tests for student payments, pensions and working age allowances; scrapping relocation assistance for students moving from one major city to another; and ending indexation of the Clean Energy Supplement.
Macklin did not say if the party would support or oppose reviewing recipients of DSP who became eligible between 2007 and 2011.
Cutting welfare to unemployed people under 30 for months at a time has garnered opposition from many corners of the Senate with Day, the Greens and the leader of the Palmer United party, Clive Palmer, all publicly denouncing it.
IT APPEARS THAT THE OVERSEAS DSPers HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT BY JENNY MACKLIN AND THE ALP !!!
THESE BILLS AND ALP AMENDMENTS ARE BEING DEBATED NOW IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: 8.30 PM AUSTRALIAN EASTERN TIME: YOU CAN CLICK ON THE AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT SITE AND WATCH THE DEBATE LIVE !!!
I cannot be completely certain of this.
I am just assuming that "support of the other measures" , includes the 4 week limit on DSP overseas.
I will be studying the Hansard and records of parliament today and tomorrow.
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Post by zingzingzing on Jun 24, 2014 20:39:16 GMT 7
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Post by ideas on Jun 24, 2014 21:02:12 GMT 7
OK, HERE ARE THE FACTS !!!
At 6.03pm this evening, Tuesday 24th of June 2014, Jenny Macklin made a speech to the House of Representatives, opposing a range of welfare cutting measures in the 2 Bills that are the subject of the Senate Inquiry, as described in the Guardian news article posted above. Remember that Jenny Macklin is the ALP spokesperson for the DSP, she decides Labor policy on the DSP and whether or not the ALP will oppose the welfare cutting measures.
Here is the critical part of her speech which is relevant to the '4 week limit on DSP overseas', which is at the very end of her speech to the House of Representatives:
JENNY MACKLIN (Jagajaga):
"The bills include changes to the Disability Support Pension. I have already indicated our opposition to pension changes, so I will not touch on those again. The bills include a measure to review the eligibility of the Disability Support Pension for those under 35 years of age. We will not seek to remove these measures from the bills today, but we will seek to get more information about them in the forthcoming Senate inquiry.
There are very serious matters in these bills. If the government refuses to agree to Labor's amendments, which would remove the harshest measures from these bills, Labor will oppose the legislation in its entirety. I will move these amendments because Labor will never stop fighting for what is right and fair for all Australians. "
WHAT THIS MEANS, DSPoverseas MEMBERS, IS THAT, ALTHOUGH LABOR IS NOT OPPOSING THE '4 WEEK DSPoverseas LIMIT' TODAY, JENNY MACKLIN MAY SEEK TO OPPOSE THIS MEASURE IN FUTURE BASED ON INFORMATION FROM THE FORTHCOMING SENATE INQUIRY (THAT IS, INCLUDING YOUR SENATE SUBMISSIONS !!!!!)
THIS MEANS THAT YOUR SUBMISSIONS TO THE SENATE INQUIRY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER !!!!!!!!
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Post by ideas on Jun 24, 2014 21:12:49 GMT 7
Here is the link to Jenny Macklins speech on the 2 Bills:
parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=BillId_Phrase%3A%22r5274%22%20Dataset%3Ahansardr,hansards%20Title%3A%22second%20reading%22%20Speaker_Phrase%3A%22macklin,%20jenny,%20mp%22;rec=0
On the left hand side you will see the link to 12 Second Reading speeches, and I believe these are mostly ALP members opposing and criticizing the 2 Bills.
OOPS! That link only goes to a page on the aph website, this discussion forum will not allow the full link, but if you look at the column on the left hand side, you will see the 2 Bills, and the phrase "Second Reading Speeches": click on that, and you will see the list of 12 MPs, with Jenny Macklin at the top of the list. |
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Post by ideas on Jun 24, 2014 21:44:53 GMT 7
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Post by zingzingzing on Jun 24, 2014 22:20:20 GMT 7
Here is the link to Jenny Macklins speech on the 2 Bills:
parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=BillId_Phrase%3A%22r5274%22%20Dataset%3Ahansardr,hansards%20Title%3A%22second%20reading%22%20Speaker_Phrase%3A%22macklin,%20jenny,%20mp%22;rec=0
On the left hand side you will see the link to 12 Second Reading speeches, and I believe these are mostly ALP members opposing and criticizing the 2 Bills.
OOPS! That link only goes to a page on the aph website, this discussion forum will not allow the full link, but if you look at the column on the left hand side, you will see the 2 Bills, and the phrase "Second Reading Speeches": click on that, and you will see the list of 12 MPs, with Jenny Macklin at the top of the list. I'm not sure. "The bills include changes to the Disability Support Pension. I have already indicated our opposition to pension changes, so I will not touch on those again. The bills include a measure to review the eligibility of the Disability Support Pension for those under 35 years of age. We will not seek to remove these measures from the bills today, but we will seek to get more information about them in the forthcoming Senate inquiry." |
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