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Post by Banjo on Mar 18, 2011 9:27:45 GMT 7
Centrelink has launched it's campaign against DSP recipients they consider not to be Australian residents. One member has had his benefits cut off and a second has had letters sent to his place of Australian residency asking about his living there. It's important now that any member who has been contacted by Centrelink or just considers they are at risk lets us know.
"We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." Benjamin Franklin
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Post by Banjo on Mar 18, 2011 12:46:37 GMT 7
I suspect they will claim the existing law is sufficient to enforce their rules. It already states DSP recipients must be a resident of Australia and in complete defiance of the basic corner stone of English Common Law.... on which all Australian Law is based... the presumption of innocence, they are forcing people to prove that they are innocent, instead of Centrelink having to prove their guilt.
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Post by Banjo on Mar 18, 2011 18:27:56 GMT 7
I discussed this with Banker today and I think it's a relevant point.
Here are the residency rules for applying for the DSP from Centrelink's site.
Residence requirements
To qualify for Disability Support Pension, you must be an Australian resident and in Australia on the day that you lodge your claim.
To qualify you must be living in Australia as:
* an Australia citizen, or * the holder of a permanent resident visa, or * a New Zealand citizen who was in Australia on 26 February 2001, or for 12 months in the 2 years immediately before that date, or was assessed as 'protected' before 26 February 2004.
You also need to meet the 10-year permanent residence requirement, unless:
* you are claiming under an international social security agreement, or * you are a refugee or former refugee, or * your inability to work or blindness happened while you were an Australian resident.
That's it. These basic requirements to apply, but now they're moving the goalposts about residency to keep it.
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Post by rowdy on Mar 18, 2011 19:23:20 GMT 7
Did Borrowman get a deal. We must find out. If so, who authorised it?
I am going to lodge a complaint with the Commonwealth Ombudsman on Monday.
I hate my f'ing Government, especially Ju-Liar the greatest disgrace we have every had.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 6:24:20 GMT 7
It looks as though they are systematically checking all DSP people living overseas.
I guess when you plead your case, you could mention that why not do as they have with the OAP.
Do a progressive change date as this will effect quite a few people who have invested money living overseas.
Because all DSP people living overseas all they are doing is abiding by the rules.
Maybe you could ask the pollies to think about this when the amendment is being changed.
Just a thought!
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Post by Banker on Mar 19, 2011 7:29:40 GMT 7
Thats great Banjo, after all this time you have now realized just what Schedule 2 of the bill was changing... </sarcasm> Unfortunately you are their test case, or are you? What ever happened to Lemons? Didn't they classify him non resident last year? If the government breaks my family apart I have nothing to lose, they better be prepared for a fight when my number gets called. Lemons lodged an appeal through Welfare Rights and the whole thing was dropped. Thats why I say if a decision is made by C/L against what YOU want, appeal, appeal, appeal. Please dont think it will be too hard. Keep fighting the bastards. Lodge complaints with the Ombudsman, the more complaints they get in about C/L the better it will be for all of us. This applies to all members on this forum. If you need any help with this and your not sure how to go about it, please contact one of the Admin or post about your problem. Do what spaceyone has done FIGHT the bastards all the way. She is a credit to all Australians, its people like spaceyone that make Australia such a great country. Is Banker wound up ?? You bet I have had a bad night.
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 19, 2011 8:19:04 GMT 7
Not only did I continue my appeal all the way to the top, until my DSP was granted, I now intend to go back and demand punishment for those who sought to defraud me of it along the way.
They haven't heard the last of me yet. They made my life hell for years, now its my turn.
Also, since I would be hauled into court and charged and punished for any breaches of social security law on my part, I now expect the same to apply to their staff who broke ss laws.
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Post by Banjo on Mar 19, 2011 10:40:04 GMT 7
Go for it girl,
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Post by Banjo on Apr 11, 2011 8:01:23 GMT 7
Strange games happening, the Centrelink Investigations officer involved in the original post has "disappeared". The pensioner involved was promised the result of his ARO Friday but the officer still has his phone on the answering service today. The guy has run out of medication and has no concession card.
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Post by Banker on Apr 11, 2011 13:39:48 GMT 7
Strange games happening, the Centrelink Investigations officer involved in the original post has "disappeared". The pensioner involved was promised the result of his ARO Friday but the officer still has his phone on the answering service today. The guy has run out of medication and has no concession card. Banjo, If you have some way of contacting this person please tell them to contact Lifeline and ask to see a social worker and see if they can get him the medication he needs, they will have a direct line to C/L and perhaps they could call to speed things up.....It may also turn some wheels in C/L to let the social workers know what is going on and how C/L are treating Australian Citizens on DSP.
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Post by Banjo on Apr 12, 2011 8:21:53 GMT 7
Still no ruling from the ARO. Two possible options occur to me, one, just deliberately moving things slowly two, they know that if it's refused it's not going to stop there and want to make sure all their ducks are in a row.
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Post by Banjo on May 7, 2011 4:40:54 GMT 7
An update on our member's status. He still has no payments but has been advised by Centrelink and his federal MP to reapply. He has chosen to pursue the reinstatement of his original pension. Because of his situation the SSAT has put his appeal in the express lane and he fronts up next week.
He's received his files but only has a few days to study them before the hearing. If his payments had been reinstated pending appeal he would ask for a delay to prepare his case properly but with no income he is caught between a rock and a hard place.
His legal aid hasn't come through and he has decided to forgo any assistance from Welfare Rights at this stage.
Centrelink has generated an amazing amount of paperwork in their preparation and Minister Macklin's $3,000,000 savings are looking very shaky for 2011.
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Post by Banker on May 7, 2011 7:14:33 GMT 7
An update on our member's status. He still has no payments but has been advised by Centrelink and his federal MP to reapply. He has chosen to pursue the reinstatement of his original pension. Because of his situation the SSAT has put his appeal in the express lane and he fronts up next week. He's received his files but only has a few days to study them before the hearing. If his payments had been reinstated pending appeal he would ask for a delay to prepare his case properly but with no income he is caught between a rock and a hard place. His legal aid hasn't come through and he has decided to forgo any assistance from Welfare Rights at this stage. Centrelink has generated an amazing amount of paperwork in their preparation and Minister Macklin's $3,000,000 savings are looking very shaky for 2011. Banjo, Please pass on my best wishes to him/her and I hope he wins the appeal.
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Post by spaceyone on May 7, 2011 11:19:23 GMT 7
Good luck with your appeal this week Banjo. Will be sending you good vibes on the day.
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Post by Banjo on May 10, 2011 17:08:37 GMT 7
Well tomorrow is the big day. As much preparation as possible has been done in the short time available and under normal circumstances would be sufficient to prove the case against the ARO and the investigator's findings. The only way we can fail now is if the decision has already been made. I say "we" because it's all of us that will be there tomorrow, not just one person, fighting for the right of free Australians to live as they please within the law.
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