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Post by Banjo on Dec 29, 2014 14:41:12 GMT 7
Thanks Banjo, well said as always. In my perfect world the money would be paid straight to the law firm thus making it all above board. Like Banjo i have no desire to handle the money just from a time factor alone. Again, this among heaps of other stuff needs to be discussed with the lawyer as I have no idea of the correct protocol or time frame in these things. Any emails i get from him i will post for all to see. Whatever happens this will take a few weeks minimum so please check this post daily if interested. That's quite possible to pay it direct to the law firm but problems could arise if the total pledged does not come to the total sent in. I'm sure that they will be only too happy to set up a trust account in our name. NewsCorp abuses pensioners most days so I can't see time frame being an issue. When things start to move along I'll get contributors together online and we can look at forming a management committee. (All us Lefties know that nothing can be done without a committee... )
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Post by dougandkas on Dec 29, 2014 16:44:45 GMT 7
no worries Ill look into and see what I can find out cant hurt.... and you never know... Happy New Year matey
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Post by nomadic on Dec 30, 2014 9:03:08 GMT 7
Not the fastest response i had hoped for. I am off to Laos for between 7 and 14 days so we we give it until I get back with regular internet, as i realise not every member checks the forum daily. But if not enough response by then I will pull the plug on the class action idea. there is no point in fighting tiny battles by posting ideas only, as good as many of them are. We need to get in and win the war. And unless we do something that stands out nothing will ever change. And it seems this forum is the only avenue open to us. We have written to and pestered politicians, media, disability orgs and things have only got worse so if all those on the forum can't achieve this important undertaking then i will give up and chanel my energy into other things. So please support this battle that may help win the war against all those evil things discussed daily.
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Post by newtodsp on Dec 30, 2014 16:01:08 GMT 7
Not the fastest response i had hoped for. I am off to Laos for between 7 and 14 days so we we give it until I get back with regular internet, as i realise not every member checks the forum daily. But if not enough response by then I will pull the plug on the class action idea. there is no point in fighting tiny battles by posting ideas only, as good as many of them are. We need to get in and win the war. And unless we do something that stands out nothing will ever change. And it seems this forum is the only avenue open to us. We have written to and pestered politicians, media, disability orgs and things have only got worse so if all those on the forum can't achieve this important undertaking then i will give up and chanel my energy into other things. So please support this battle that may help win the war against all those evil things discussed daily. Hi nomadic I think this class action idea is great, count me in - though does it cost anything/much? I think lots of disabled people would be interested in joining, as well as carers - if that's possible. I think the class action idea needs to be circulated more widely on social media/blogs/internet as you are right, not many people check in to the forum regularly. Btw everyone i survived my review, ie. under 35s review which took months and i'm feeling a bit relieved. however morrison is talking about dismantling the welfare system so let's keep calm and keep updated on this. In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Post by Banjo on Dec 30, 2014 16:07:18 GMT 7
The law firm wants $5 to $10,000 up front. We're going to try to raise that from members in pledges. If we get enough promised then we'll call it in and set the deal up.
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Post by nomadic on Dec 31, 2014 18:27:49 GMT 7
Hi new to dsp. The telegraph abused/libeled everybody on dsp and the herald sun called all 7,000 of us on both dsp and oap who are living overseas legally, cheats/thieves. So we are looking for $100.00 from at least 50 people but the more the merrier and less to pay as well. Please go back and read this thread from the start to get more info. cheers.
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Post by nomadic on Jan 3, 2015 18:13:58 GMT 7
the lack of response in the new year is so far very depressing. so i will keep the thread going as much as i can from laos to give those interested a chance to stand up and be counted. If this is not worth giving a few dollars for then i don't know what is. Our lives depend on it is how i see it so 100 bucks is zero in the overall fight.
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Post by dougandkas on Jan 3, 2015 18:42:28 GMT 7
the lack of response in the new year is so far very depressing. so i will keep the thread going as much as i can from laos to give those interested a chance to stand up and be counted. If this is not worth giving a few dollars for then i don't know what is. Our lives depend on it is how i see it so 100 bucks is zero in the overall fight. Hi all Nomadic please dont be down on yourself. It is the crazy time of year and in truth most of us support the class action but find the cash out lay hard to find right this minute. I have however been looking into a few ways to possibly negate this issue and have found a few interesting prospects for all to look into. I dont know much about this sort of thing or the legal aspects I will leave that greater minds than mine but perhaps these links can help... if nothing else they may provide and insight into a slightly different approach. rightnow.org.au/writing-cat/article/crowdfunding-for-a-better-world/www.abajournal.com/news/article/new_website_uses_crowdfunding_to_finance_lawsuitsozcrowd.com/?gclid=CMHAvIXf98ICFUQIvAodYSoAag
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Post by bruce on Jan 4, 2015 0:04:45 GMT 7
The law firm wants $5 to $10,000 up front. We're going to try to raise that from members in pledges. If we get enough promised then we'll call it in and set the deal up. I dont understand ? what would a class action Do. for a start' there is the cost. any law firmthat takes on a class action will take the standerd plus 30% of any moneys won. Then there are the extra legal fees & charges on top of that. & if we/you won, the law firm will have their costs payed for by the losing side. & that comes out of our cut. & then there is the issue of if we win,we will all lose our welfare payments due to the fact we just won a court case/cash settlement. & this wound not only mean we all get booted off our payments' but that we would also be subject to re-assessment under the new rules that came into place on January 1 2015 & the yet to be implemented changes on july 1 2015. But sure ... im game if you all are. just so long as we know what we risk.
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Post by nomadic on Jan 4, 2015 10:40:20 GMT 7
Hi Bruce, Everybody on the forum has been extremely critical of the right wing media that condemns all on welfare as bludgers. This is a chance to take them to task for their outragious lies of which the press council even rapped the Telegraph on their story. So the main object is to show the media as they are, politicians propaganda voices. In regards to compo I don't think it would be that big to affect any of our payments. The law firm is on holidays but as soon as they come back i need to discuss numerous things with them which i will post. I will set up an email adress and those interested can have direct contact that way after the lawyer gives his view of things so i expect we all have time to save some money before we have to pay up. Furthermore if the herald sun story doesn't infuriate everyone they accused of being thieves then i give up. It was the most untruthful headline ever seen. Ok, glad you will join us and i wouldn't believe there is any risk other than losing the $100.00 and the benefit of a win would be enormous publicity for all on and dsp especially. I really do trust this lawyer so will be guided by what he has to say in next few weeks.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 4, 2015 11:18:14 GMT 7
I doubt there will be much "cut", contributors have to realise that the no one will get rich on this, an apology and maybe their costs will be a good result.
Good to see our serial doomsayer isn't losing his touch.
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Post by nomadic on Jan 5, 2015 11:22:12 GMT 7
Well put above Banjo. I was hoping to have had an email from lawyer today but unable to get get into my yahoo email for three days since i arrived in Laos. Every time i change countries i have problems but this time can't get it sorted as i usually do. Maybe back in Thailand tomorrow and hopefully it works again. dougandkas, i couldn't at all get my head around the crowd funding so believe me you have more internet expertise than me so I'll leave it to you or others. Just keep saving everybody is all i can suggest. I think we will have at least a month to pay so $25.00 a week perhaps.
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Post by bruce on Jan 6, 2015 5:21:35 GMT 7
I doubt there will be much "cut", contributors have to realise that the no one will get rich on this, an apology and maybe their costs will be a good result. Good to see our serial doomsayer isn't losing his touch. oh ok, so where not going for a payout' nor wanting them to make a large donation to a disability charity or anything then? i always thought if there was a shred of truth / fact to the story then they would always win. P.S doomssayer, ...... i dont this the idea is that bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 7:04:24 GMT 7
I've contacted OzKiwi for more details, including their lawyers name. As always Banjo, you are on top of things. Was going to suggest that could well lend itself to a class action joining forces.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 6, 2015 8:13:04 GMT 7
I never heard back, I even left a message on their facebook page.
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