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Post by aussieg46 on Jul 4, 2017 13:01:14 GMT 7
The letter seems quite comprehensive in relation to the two conditions. It's pretty difficult to get a doctor to write a letter exactly in the terms of the Tables and legislation. Did you ask him to include information about your hands? Another tact you can take is to request your medical records from the GP's practice and add these to your medical documentation -- they should mention your hands and that could be a way to get documentation about your upper limb function to the JCA. and no the pain clininic years ago and the gp in was at with differnt drs were all told about them ,,,, this ones been told and they all brush it off,,,, the only one that ever refferred to it was the first govt, dr and the neuroligist,,,,, whats worse is since February i lost balance and now my hands most times i need to use both to lift a jar and my shoulder is sore as the left is worse than the right cold feels really cold warm feels real hot and they feel tight stiff like theyre holding prickles and thyve just come unnumb ,, and they number alot quicker when i do use them this dr doesnt wanna know about it and ive not got ny time slot to get in and my dr s receptionist told me to give them the ard so they could fax that they would be ringing and to get them to talk to him ,,,but hes sent me off for tests months ago came back with inflammation ... i did have a copy of the results of the ctc scan but never put them up here ,, but even though hes been told about it all hes never documented anything,,,,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 14:12:30 GMT 7
if Centrelink was handed a death certificate they would reject it and say the person isn't dead enough yet.
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Post by aussieg46 on Jul 4, 2017 17:51:07 GMT 7
how on earth can they do a proper jca on the phone and 2 days notice i think is a bit rich or do they think we all sit on our backsides living th laid lifestyle,,, for all i know with how well im sleeping atm ,,, i was up all night and crawled into bed as everyone was getting up,,, thats the only time i get to myself is when im up on my own so i make the most of it ,,,but also too i dont go to bed till i know im going to flake out ane not lay awake forever
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Post by aussieg46 on Jul 6, 2017 11:29:24 GMT 7
seems like had the dr been more specific with functioning in the letter the jca would not have bothered contacting him yet hes not noted a thing... told them about my hands which i told him the same and he got blood tests which showed inflammation but that could be anywhere i have been meaning to make an appt with him to whinge again about them but he does fob it off a fair bit and tell me my body is stuffed stuffed what more do i need to know ... she did ask couldl he corroborate what i had said i told her if he was better at taking notes then maybe yes but its the truth ,,, he is useless for note taking so be interesting to find out what he says to her, ,,, when asked about my day and what i do its like they wanna hear ya say ya did ya high jumps scrubbed the house from top to bottom and even washed the and vacuumed the car as well,,, when in actual fact ya brain dead hope it actually remembers what ya need in shopping and need to wait till someone is home to drive ya , now its waiting to find out if they need me to get more info but she did when i mentioned hands she did state it could be due to the nerve impingement when i lost balance and dint land too nicely after i stood up ....
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Post by nomadic on Jul 7, 2017 7:17:24 GMT 7
yes aussieg46 you have to do all the leg work. Sadly this is the system today. See specialists and get hard evidence. Many on this forum had similar long fights but in the end they won out after horrible times of stress also. So stay positive and you will get what you are entitled to. It just takes longer than it should.
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Post by aussieg46 on Jul 19, 2017 6:35:34 GMT 7
is it normal for 2wks to go past and NOT have a jca do up an assessment she hasnt even contacted my doctor yet,,, starting to think she may be going to specialist level with whats on the scans or do they not go that fare when its a review and she agrees its definitely gotten with with the evidence provided.... i know my answers do meet somewhere in the questions she was asking meet th 20 points in more than one place
idecided to go in and atually ask them no point prolonging the inevitable considering however he couldnt gt into the notes in the office they were closed off for viewing would a ph call be more productive ... or just wait ... my sons jca didnt even take a week to do hers she was quite quick
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Post by nomadic on Jul 19, 2017 6:43:44 GMT 7
aussieg46, clink is in no way normal. nothing they do is normal for logical people. 2 weeks or 2 months? who knows. Contact them and try not to let your mind guess what is happening because it only causes us to go crazy when they are the crazy ones. No one can predict what they will say or do next. good luck.
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Post by tasjo on Jul 19, 2017 19:47:27 GMT 7
I have had the most 'success' in finding out where things are really up to by talkong to a federal senator and/or the complaints line.
Unfortunately it seems the JCA timeline is anywhere up to 6 wks... AAT directed a paper JCA review 6 wks ago and it still hasnt been done. Hopefully in both cases no news is good news.
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Post by aussieg46 on Jul 20, 2017 13:33:46 GMT 7
called today ,,,, still no report done ,,, figured it wouldnt hurt to all as hay its not going to be put the review is going ahead regardless and nothing i do will make it worse,,,, although in hte last week or 2 since i was speaking to her by arm has decided to all out parathesia ..rang the doctors today and all he said was there was nothing more he could do whether i like it or not its coming from my spine ...regardless of how painful it is and the pins and needles and tingling and feeling like im holding prickles ... so i would not dispute the fact that when she chooses to contact him he will know how it affects and not ,,, not,,, back it everything,,,,, seeing naturopath type person monday who does acupuncture ,,, i wouldn't wish this pain on my worst enemy yet i know ive not overdone anything to have this happen unless its a flow on thing from my hands months ago,,,
but thank you if any time ill be needing mental thought help this will be it ,its all been doing my head in with the process they now do me thinks regardless of the outcome ill be doing a complaints as it bad enough living with it all daily only have a huge ? and the waiting ,, just a shame a psychologist on a new application is much much quicker than one doing a review
ill give it the 6 weeks then ill know where to go to start chasing it all up si it can be done an over with it as i really dont need it dragging out ... let hope if it comes to that as i dont want it to have a negative thing either the person on the phone never bothered taking down the doctors opening times
i dont know if id be able to cope with an appeal although its blatant that its worse and not better .... thanking you both again all i can do is keep everything crossed its over with soon,,,,
was thinking though if she does put hours down even if it was 0-7 ,, is that something if its getting worse bit by bit and nothing helps as my doctor has told me to never take up surgery as an option as it doesn't last and most times you end worse off than before you have it should i try and get lowered
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Post by Banjo on Jul 20, 2017 14:00:12 GMT 7
Best of luck, keep us informed and come by any time you want a chat.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jul 21, 2017 3:01:30 GMT 7
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Post by aussieg46 on Aug 9, 2017 12:29:51 GMT 7
UPDATE TIME ,,,,, IF EVERYONE COULD CROSS WHATEVER THEY COULD PLEASE ..... yup im impatient and just want it over with
due to not being above to get through to the right place last night with the incessant busy signal i rang the families line she said it had gone to the new-start team with disabilities looking at it and that it was marked as DUE?? so to go into the office and or call through to the department today ...
apparently it is now with the review team ,,,, at no time did the jca call the doctor ,,,, if the review team need more info or want, they'll send it back to her as no one can see her report as yet on the screen till the review is either accepted or more info ....
that in itself can take another month (once its waiting for the review tam to go over it and anything more and or passed ill be able to read it then so copy for the record would it be better to go through FOI for that,,,,
the lady told me that the jca may not have felt with whatever info she had in front her ie the neurologist report the first doctor report when i first applied ,, along with all the other tdr's and the last jca report done in 2011 have felt she needed to approach the doctors as that was what she was going to do next and could he corroborate ... i would have expected an over the phone one to contact my doctor as they cant see you in person only over the phone, even if you need to ask them 5 times about the question or ask them slow the question down ... dont like formal paperwork as one needs to really think prior to answering and really make one come across as inept
fingers crossed its all that needs to be done as i really dont know how much more help my doctor will be other than get a tad more narkier if anything is sent back for him ,,,, although i did underestimate him as from my shoulder to arm a month ago had me near tears whenever i lifted it when i rang to ask could he send me to anyone he told the receptionist its all coming from my spine in a bit more detail though and was nothing more that he can do for me as im taking the medication im on and if anything to up it .. suppose the less he gives them the first time and shes gone by past reports and past jca report nothing has improved and has gotten worse not better
went to naturopath i think they're called it and if it eased it by at least half id be happy (which it did) ....but at 80$ a throw and a 4.5 hr return drive not sure how i can afford it ... but am feeling a lot sorer in me ... blind spot checking while reversing is next to nothing my shoulders feel like theyre not there and would love to just take some pain meds with a glass of wine AND DIE .... but in the big picture i keep me thinking there is always someone else worse off in the world and stop internally whinging ... that can happen saturday !!!!
but still would be nice to not have it over my head and finalized ....EITHER WAY ... i dont have control issues but dont like it when there im in a situation i cant do anything about
enjoy whats left of the weekend and have a good weekend
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Post by nomadic on Aug 9, 2017 16:19:44 GMT 7
46, pass all this on to the number i sent you in a message. it is indeed a clink horror story. BUT ANOTHER! good luck.
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Post by aussieg46 on Oct 18, 2017 12:01:58 GMT 7
an update ,,,, being me i enquired just a few times when i found myself over there in the office,,, was told a coupla weeks back by the lady at the desk that i had a grace period till mid November then i would be taken off it and would need to be linked to a job network place, she was trying to see where that decision had been made and couldn't find it whatsoever ... she started talking about an appeal etc,,,, was trying to get someone higher up than her to back to her while i was waiting ,,,, pretty well much she informed me that the information was wrong that someone would call me the in next 24 hrs ,, got the phone call and it was to let me know that it hadn't been anywhere near finalized a with a lot of re assessments ,,, asked him what the go was with getting a copy of the jca a considering it was them that started i may a well try and link me up to see if anyone could help me a bit of work fora few hours a week ,,,, 2 weeks later ,,, NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS
got the phone call yesterday and have been told it was finalized and im not being taken off my dsp ,,, he offered to get me an appt and link me with a job agency ,,, i thanked him and informed him of my past experience with one and that i would rather approach any myself if it was ok with them ,,, and that ill only link with one that can tell me how they help me before signing on the dotted line,,,
here is my question ,,, * do i get in touch with FOI and ask for all information to do with this reassessment, * yes i need to ask Satan for my jca report , * do i also need to go as far as having my dr book me in for a nuerologist appt yearly or once every 2 yrs ,,,
or would it be complacent of me to not worry about the above now they want medical evidence for any upcoming reviews in the next 2 -5 years ,,, even though its been 5yrs since the last jca that i started when wanting voluntary sign up to keep myself sane that they already had
or should i do keep doing what i do and have it where i get work on off my own back without the job agencies and endeavor to at some point end up with no future work capacity put down as that really is what happening in me whether i like it or not
i know with the UP it has to have pretty well much no capacity to work ,,, do you have to know someone wherever there is a disability agreement type thing ... am i able to message someone for a bit of advice with a carer (i have someone here that me be able to fill that role atm which is why im thinking of it ,,,that and put elsewhere the older im getting the more limited im finding myself ) and try for that as even though im doing my bet use it not lose it but i can only put up with pushing through the pain so much till myself shuts down whether i like it or not and i cant stay awake fora few days ... my driving even though that is now limited is only if i have to drive to the drs that i drive and or the mot important of appointments ,,, she was of the opinion i shouldn't be driving and my dr should be taking it off me ,,, unfortunately living in a small rual area a license is a necessity and without that i would be unable to walk the 3 km to the drs and i have noone that an drive me anywhere ,,,, seems now no matter what medication on the only way id be able to function physically better even in a small minute way is to up my medication ,,, ie endone and tramadol which is something i dont really want to do ... ie always been mindful on how my medication affect me and what my body has to do to process it etc,,, the best i found was the naturopath but that isnt affordable when it a 4 hr round trip and his cost of $75 on top of that, that and there is no safety net
sorry again for the essay this i something i should be able to put some to the dr ... and some to other who are in the same boat as me ...
thanks for reading ,,, and thank you for having having somewhere to go in situations like that when its come up and i a way different process to what it was when i last went through one, i can only hope that i can be of help to someone else if they find themselves in this one,,,, it definitely makes ones head space better off as i know mentally there would be no way in Hades to have had to deal with any appeals,,
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 3:59:46 GMT 7
That's a great, albeit the correct result, aussieg46 I've just re read parts of your thread and what a long six months. No more worrying about it now! However I do like your ideas outlined in your questions. here is my question ,,, *1 do i get in touch with FOI and ask for all information to do with this reassessment, *2 yes i need to ask Satan for my jca report , *3 do i also need to go as far as having my dr book me in for a nuerologist appt yearly or once every 2 yrs ,,, Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/4917/hi-new-review?page=1#ixzz4vtUI0G9M*1 By getting the reassessment info you'll have Centrelinks own, most recent info, should you need it in next 2-5 years. *2 You have already made your mind up about this, but the above applies to this as well. *3 My Doctor and Specialists have worked together for a long time now, to see that I have Yearly Appointments. I think Centrelink almost require regular medical interventions, to serve as an indication of who will & who won't be reviewed. As anyone who has had a good squizz around MyGov knows, it's all there. Dr. Visits, Blood Tests, Script Filling, Specialist Visits ad nauseum. Cheers bear
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