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Post by fluxcapacitor on Dec 19, 2021 23:31:43 GMT 7
HI. I got approved for DSP in October 2021 and was told by my DES provider that because my JCA stated my job capacity was less than 8 hours after intervention that they could not legally engage with me and exited me from any form of employment search.
My question is if I apply for Infinite Portability, do they take the previous JCA and evidence into account or is it starting from scratch and I have to provide updated documentation? Or will filling out the IP form by my psychiatrist be enough and they will find everything else in the system since my DSP was a recent approval? My previous psychiatrist report said I had no work capacity. Do I need a new letter from him in addition to him filling out the Infinite Portability Form?
From past reports on this forum what are the chances of being the IP Assessor cancelling my DSP?
Thank you
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Post by genx on Dec 20, 2021 6:43:16 GMT 7
HI. I got approved for DSP in October 2021 and was told by my DES provider that because my JCA stated my job capacity was less than 8 hours after intervention that they could not legally engage with me and exited me from any form of employment search. My question is if I apply for Infinite Portability, do they take the previous JCA and evidence into account or is it starting from scratch and I have to provide updated documentation? Or will filling out the IP form by my psychiatrist be enough and they will find everything else in the system since my DSP was a recent approval? My previous psychiatrist report said I had no work capacity. Do I need a new letter from him in addition to him filling out the Infinite Portability Form? From past reports on this forum what are the chances of being the IP Assessor cancelling my DSP? Thank you It's called a Review for Portability. Centrelink reserves the right to take a fresh look at your DSP application and reassess. That said, it's unlikely that they will reverse their decision about your job capacity. Since it was so recent, you can submit the same documents as your DSP application. That said, it's a good idea to get an updated letter from your psychiatrist specifically stating that s/he supports your application for Indefinite Portability because your condition is permanent and won't be alleviated through further treatment. The letter from your psychiatrist can also reference your JCA and DMA (get the DMA if you don't have it on hand) and say that he concurs with the JCA and DMA that you have no future work capacity. That should make sure that nothing goes wrong. I think you are pretty much guaranteed IP. |
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Post by bear on Dec 20, 2021 7:11:16 GMT 7
HI. I got approved for DSP in October 2021 and was told by my DES provider that because my JCA stated my job capacity was less than 8 hours after intervention that they could not legally engage with me and exited me from any form of employment search. My question is if I apply for Infinite Portability, do they take the previous JCA and evidence into account or is it starting from scratch and I have to provide updated documentation? Or will filling out the IP form by my psychiatrist be enough and they will find everything else in the system since my DSP was a recent approval? My previous psychiatrist report said I had no work capacity. Do I need a new letter from him in addition to him filling out the Infinite Portability Form? From past reports on this forum what are the chances of being the IP Assessor cancelling my DSP? Thank you It's called a Review for Portability. Centrelink reserves the right to take a fresh look at your DSP application and reassess. That said, it's unlikely that they will reverse their decision about your job capacity. Since it was so recent, you can submit the same documents as your DSP application. That said, it's a good idea to get an updated letter from your psychiatrist specifically stating that s/he supports your application for Indefinite Portability because your condition is permanent and won't be alleviated through further treatment. The letter from your psychiatrist can also reference your JCA and DMA (get the DMA if you don't have it on hand) and say that he concurs with the JCA and DMA that you have no further work capacity. That should make sure that nothing goes wrong. I think you are pretty much guaranteed IP. I think you've pretty well covered the answer to your question genx. Does the IP/UP application still have two parts; your personal info plus medical?? Cheers bear |
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Post by genx on Dec 20, 2021 8:27:26 GMT 7
I think you've pretty well covered the answer to your question genx . Does the IP/UP application still have two parts; your personal info plus medical?? Cheers bear Yes. Refer to this. Note that every IP form has a unique code, and this one cannot be used for an application. A request must be made to Centrelink International, who will send the IP forms by snail mail. |
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Post by bear on Dec 20, 2021 10:04:46 GMT 7
I think you've pretty well covered the answer to your question genx . Does the IP/UP application still have two parts; your personal info plus medical?? Cheers bear Yes. Refer to this. Note that every IP form has a unique code, and this one cannot be used for an application. A request must be made to Centrelink International, who will send the IP forms by snail mail. Thanks genx . The unique code is new to me. Forms used to be sent without any mention of a return date. It was the applicants decision. When I called to ask for my application to be pulled (made inactive), I was told should I change my mind, just call to have it reactivated.
The work capacity section looks to be still part of personal info though with its own heading now and suggests it's not necessary to fill in if not actively searching for work. Is that how you read it??
At Q 8 of the doctor's section there may be an attempt to trip them up depending on.whether they choose to certify; i.e. I examined on xx/xx/xxxx. I think not filling in the second part but the third is the best indication for a successful application. And having a doctor who chose not to certify probably wouldn't indicate a willingness to support the application. Just idle thoughts through my vestiges of paranoia. Cheers bear
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Post by genx on Dec 20, 2021 14:16:59 GMT 7
Thanks genx . The unique code is new to me. Forms used to be sent without any mention of a return date. It was the applicants decision. When I called to ask for my application to be pulled (made inactive), I was told should I change my mind, just call to have it reactivated.
The work capacity section looks to be still part of personal info though with its own heading now and suggests it's not necessary to fill in if not actively searching for work. Is that how you read it??
You have to answer all the questions, including work capacity. In relation to the return date, if you were approved for DSP pre-2012, then you will get a letter referencing a return date. If you were approved for DSP on the new tables, no return date will be referenced. This is why documents for IP for pre-2012 DSPers is ALWAYS risky. Centrelink can, at their discretion, ask you to come into a JCA regardless of whether you return the documents or not (again if pre-2012 DSPer). At Q 8 of the doctor's section there may be an attempt to trip them up depending on.whether they choose to certify; i.e. I examined on xx/xx/xxxx. I think not filling in the second part but the third is the best indication for a successful application. And having a doctor who chose not to certify probably wouldn't indicate a willingness to support the application. Just idle thoughts through my vestiges of paranoia. Cheers bear Correct. There are several trick questions in this document, including questions about treatment and the medical certificate. EDIT: To clarify, writing out a medical certificate is a trick question. The correct answer is NO, do not wish to provide a medical certificate. If the answer is YES, then you are disqualified from IP. Why? Because your condition must be PERMANENT, and this question sets a date at which point you should be well. Its pretty disgusting, to be honest. |
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