|
|
Post by wedabest on Feb 25, 2024 19:06:23 GMT 7
So I want/need to get IP, I have been on the DSP since 2019 and NDIS since 2022 for mental health reasons. I am not even sure what Centrelink actually approved me for with the DSP as I have multiple mental health issues from OCD, Panic Disorder, Autism, Depression and PTSD. So I am unsure what specific diagnoses they went with. I have been nearly housebound completely for 10 years, I met a woman online and visited Thailand to see her twice last year and now I can’t go back to see her because of the 28 day limit. It’s absolutely unfair imo.
Anyway, I have not seen a psychiatrist or psychologist in years, 1 due to lack of availability as I live in a remote town and 2 because I am absolutely scarred by treatment I’ve had in the past by them. In 2022 I got put on the NDIS and receive daily care with just daily activities such as cooking, cleaning and getting out of the house due to my mental health just not allowing me to do it myself. I can barely hold a conversation sometimes.
Due to the fact I haven’t seen a psychiatrist or psychologist in such a long time (probably 3 or more years) would this make it really hard for me to get IP? I do have lots of documentation from doctors and psychiatrists from the past decade due to hospitalisations and other stuff.
But IP is something that I definitely need so I really want to know what to do here, do I need to start seeing a psych? I have submitted a FOI for my DSP and my NDIS. I do not have the capabilities to work. I just don’t. Most days I’m suicidal or panicking and I don’t want to only be able to visit my girlfriend 28 days a year and Centrelink doesn’t really give enough money for me to bring her here. Is IP has hard to get as Centrelink makes it seem while reading their website?
Anyway sorry for rambling or if I make no sense. Any help would be extremely appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Post by genx on Feb 25, 2024 19:52:45 GMT 7
So I want/need to get IP, I have been on the DSP since 2019 and NDIS since 2022 for mental health reasons. I am not even sure what Centrelink actually approved me for with the DSP as I have multiple mental health issues from OCD, Panic Disorder, Autism, Depression and PTSD. So I am unsure what specific diagnoses they went with. I have been nearly housebound completely for 10 years, I met a woman online and visited Thailand to see her twice last year and now I can’t go back to see her because of the 28 day limit. It’s absolutely unfair imo. Anyway, I have not seen a psychiatrist or psychologist in years, 1 due to lack of availability as I live in a remote town and 2 because I am absolutely scarred by treatment I’ve had in the past by them. In 2022 I got put on the NDIS and receive daily care with just daily activities such as cooking, cleaning and getting out of the house due to my mental health just not allowing me to do it myself. I can barely hold a conversation sometimes. Due to the fact I haven’t seen a psychiatrist or psychologist in such a long time (probably 3 or more years) would this make it really hard for me to get IP? I do have lots of documentation from doctors and psychiatrists from the past decade due to hospitalisations and other stuff. But IP is something that I definitely need so I really want to know what to do here, do I need to start seeing a psych? I have submitted a FOI for my DSP and my NDIS. I do not have the capabilities to work. I just don’t. Most days I’m suicidal or panicking and I don’t want to only be able to visit my girlfriend 28 days a year and Centrelink doesn’t really give enough money for me to bring her here. Is IP has hard to get as Centrelink makes it seem while reading their website? Anyway sorry for rambling or if I make no sense. Any help would be extremely appreciated. You need an updated letter from a psychiatrist. It will also have to affirm that you meet the criteria for IP, which is a more stringent criteria than the DSP. |
|
|
|
Post by bear on Feb 25, 2024 20:09:24 GMT 7
G'day wedabest  to the Forum. You've been proactive in applying for your files under FOI and genx 's info is a given, to have any hope of success IMO. I trust it all works out for you. All the best; cheers 🐻 |
|
|
|
Post by wedabest on Feb 26, 2024 5:46:41 GMT 7
You need an updated letter from a psychiatrist. It will also have to affirm that you meet the criteria for IP, which is a more stringent criteria than the DSP. Would a psychologist be enough or would it need to be from a psychiatrist? bear |
|
|
|
Post by itsmylife08 on Feb 26, 2024 6:11:56 GMT 7
It would need to be a Psychiatrist or a Clinical psychologist.
Unfortunately a Psychologist would not be accepted due to experience and whatever.
Most who have been through this process will tell you the same thing.
|
|
|
|
Post by genx on Feb 26, 2024 8:01:09 GMT 7
It would need to be a Psychiatrist or a Clinical psychologist. Unfortunately a Psychologist would not be accepted due to experience and whatever. Most who have been through this process will tell you the same thing. No. As itsmylife08 says, a psychologist doesn't have the qualifications to submit documentation to Centrelink. You will need a "clinical psychologist" at minimum. Ensure that you treat your IP application seriously and like a full-time job until you have the documentation. The documentation must meet the IP criteria otherwise it's pointless. |
|
|
|
Post by bear on Feb 26, 2024 10:18:07 GMT 7
Correct information from both members above wedabest. Cheers 🐻 |
|
|
|
Post by wedabest on Feb 26, 2024 11:24:25 GMT 7
I have been in contact with multiple clinical psychologists offices trying to find someone with experience in this area. Fingers crossed I find one I also have rang international services and requested the application forms. The guy I spoke to seemed super confused like it was his first day working. I mean he was nice just very confused and kept taking huge pauses while trying to explain things. He had to enter fake travel dates or something he told me so it would process having the forms sent to me. I hope that’s correct haha because he said he was just going to say I plan 12 months in Thailand from April or something and that would make the system send me the forms in the mail. I don’t know. Like I said I can’t hold a conversation and he was confused.
|
|
|
|
Post by Denis-NFA on Feb 26, 2024 14:50:52 GMT 7
I have been in contact with multiple clinical psychologists offices trying to find someone with experience in this area. Fingers crossed I find one I also have rang international services and requested the application forms. The guy I spoke to seemed super confused like it was his first day working. I mean he was nice just very confused and kept taking huge pauses while trying to explain things. He had to enter fake travel dates or something he told me so it would process having the forms sent to me. I hope that’s correct haha because he said he was just going to say I plan 12 months in Thailand from April or something and that would make the system send me the forms in the mail. I don’t know. Like I said I can’t hold a conversation and he was confused. Keep a record of who you speak to... bear and others know the drill for requesting communication evidence. All the best. |
|
|
|
Post by wedabest on Feb 26, 2024 16:41:10 GMT 7
I have been in contact with multiple clinical psychologists offices trying to find someone with experience in this area. Fingers crossed I find one I also have rang international services and requested the application forms. The guy I spoke to seemed super confused like it was his first day working. I mean he was nice just very confused and kept taking huge pauses while trying to explain things. He had to enter fake travel dates or something he told me so it would process having the forms sent to me. I hope that’s correct haha because he said he was just going to say I plan 12 months in Thailand from April or something and that would make the system send me the forms in the mail. I don’t know. Like I said I can’t hold a conversation and he was confused. Keep a record of who you speak to... bear and others know the drill for requesting communication evidence. All the best. I’ll keep that in mind from now on. I’m hoping I can do most things over email as I’m able to actually try and focus on what I say. But I know Centrelink is very much focused towards getting you to call them and then stay on hold for 2 hours for a 5 minute conversation. It’s only been a few days of me looking into this and my mental health is already not coping. So overwhelming, so depressed, despite having NDIS and being on DSP it’s crazy to me that I still need more evidence to show I can not work. My life isn’t good as it is. Why do they make everything so stressful just to improve quality of life a little. Especially when he kept stressing I may lose my DSP by applying for IP which has me freaked out. Sorry for the venting. I’m laying in bed stressed. |
|
|
|
Post by bear on Feb 26, 2024 17:07:35 GMT 7
I have been in contact with multiple clinical psychologists offices trying to find someone with experience in this area. Fingers crossed I find one I also have rang international services and requested the application forms. The guy I spoke to seemed super confused like it was his first day working. I mean he was nice just very confused and kept taking huge pauses while trying to explain things. He had to enter fake travel dates or something he told me so it would process having the forms sent to me. I hope that’s correct haha because he said he was just going to say I plan 12 months in Thailand from April or something and that would make the system send me the forms in the mail. I don’t know. Like I said I can’t hold a conversation and he was confused. Always ask for a receipt number for any calls to Centrelink. Keep them in a little black book. The receipt ensures the call remains on your file in perpetuity. Requiring travel dates to action application forms is a newie on me, although a few members who have self funded for more than 28.days without the risk of cancellation have been reviewed in a few weeks; then left. At least one received news they had been approved after their payments had stopped and received back pay and ongoing payments whilst still overseas. This is definitely not an option I'd like to see you take up wedabest but you may find yourself on a fast track to your portability JCA; due to a newbie at CIS, just don't stress if that's the case. Evidence:- This can be found in many and varied forms. For instance; if you have a myGov' account with My Health Record linked to it, there should be a wealth of documentation there.
In this link under General medical rulesTo help us assess if you meet the general medical rules, you can give us evidence such as any of the following evidence:
medical history records or reports specialist medical reports psychologist reports, including IQ testing medical imaging reports, but not films or CDs physical examination reports hospital or outpatient records including details of operations compensation and rehabilitation reports special school reports |
|
|
|
Post by genx on Feb 26, 2024 17:13:00 GMT 7
So overwhelming, so depressed, despite having NDIS and being on DSP it’s crazy to me that I still need more evidence to show I can not work. My life isn’t good as it is. Why do they make everything so stressful just to improve quality of life a little. Especially when he kept stressing I may lose my DSP by applying for IP which has me freaked out. Sorry for the venting. I’m laying in bed stressed. I get it. Keep the goal in mind and remember that this is a bureaucratic system. If you are able to get good documentation for your IP, application, you WILL get IP. And the better the documentation, the more straightforward and quick it will be. You will feel better when you understand the full process. I've written a lot about it here on the forum. You can look at my past posts. 1. Get your JCA and other documents. 2. Refer to my posts and understand the pitfalls in the IP application form. 3. Explain the application form to your clinical psychologist and the requirements for IP. The form must be filled out accordingly, and a supporting letter written accordingly. 4. Go through the documentation with a fine tooth comb to ensure that nothing is in error. 5. Apply (submit forms and letter). |
|
|
|
Post by nomadic on Feb 26, 2024 20:32:30 GMT 7
Health comes first and Centrelink is heartless in this regard. It is not personal it is every person who needs them. They try and break everyone with confusion and lies. Take it very slowly and you will get it, guaranteed if you are entitled to it. You just have to beat them at their own game. And the rewards are fantastic. Time only. It took me 8 years but now not a worry in the world. It was better than the alternative which is what this evil system wants.
|
|
|
|
Post by wedabest on Feb 27, 2024 9:00:55 GMT 7
Health comes first and Centrelink is heartless in this regard. It is not personal it is every person who needs them. They try and break everyone with confusion and lies. Take it very slowly and you will get it, guaranteed if you are entitled to it. You just have to beat them at their own game. And the rewards are fantastic. Time only. It took me 8 years but now not a worry in the world. It was better than the alternative which is what this evil system wants. It's very sad that a government organisation wants to destroy people like this. I was shocked I got DSP, then shocked that i got NDIS, hopefully I get shocked and I get IP as well. I've added my mother as a nominee to my Centrelink so she is able to help me since I think this is too difficult for me to deal with myself |
|
|
|
Post by wedabest on Mar 4, 2024 8:14:12 GMT 7
I have found a clinical psychologist who specialises in the DSP, she has never heard of IP but she seems like she really wants to help after speaking to her about it all and she was super nice. I still feel very hopeless but fingers crossed.
|
|
