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Post by Banker on Mar 13, 2012 4:54:49 GMT 7
MORE than $600 million is being paid in pensions to Australians living overseas. A Herald Sun investigation has found about 75,000 Australians living abroad were sent Federal Government payments last year, including about 65,000 pensioners. goo.gl/FHIe3 |
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Post by latindancer on Mar 13, 2012 5:53:53 GMT 7
That's $8,000 each.
I guess some was for people who went O/S temporarily
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Post by Banjo on Mar 13, 2012 12:29:16 GMT 7
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Post by rowdy on Mar 13, 2012 12:52:15 GMT 7
I've got a comment. On the same day this story came out (today), the Federal opposition are calling for an increase in foreign aid to Afghanistan which is already at a staggering A$165,000,000 as of the last budget. This amount of course pales in comparison when viewed against the estimated A$558,000,000 million given to Indonesia, making Indonesia the largest recipient of Australian aid. With almost three quarters of a billion dollars paid to just these two countries alone in aid, who gives a damn whether $600,000,000 is paid to Australian pensioners who chose to live where they want to live. If the Australian Government didn't waste so much money, perhaps the cost of living for pensioners in Australia would not be below the poverty line. |
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Post by latindancer on Mar 13, 2012 13:15:21 GMT 7
"Demographer Bernard Salt said taxpayers should embrace the growing exodus as it eased the burden on our services, particularly hospitals and other parts of the health sector".
Bernard Salt is a respected demographer who is often quoted in the news.
The bare facts speak for themselves most eloquently.
1 ) Twice as much pension money comes into Australia as flows out of it.
2 ) People being overseas eases the burden on our services, particularly hospitals and other parts of the health sector.
Having had to accompany a friend to hospital and seeing the number of people lined up waiting there, and personally having had to wait for free dental care, has driven home to me just how clogged up our health infrastructure has become.
This article has put things into perspective.
Julia Gillard and Wayne Swan, kindly take note : There is NO money saved by forcing DSP recipients to return home. Let us live overseas if we wish, and control our own lives in peace, without government interference, meddling and over-regulation.....WHETHER WE ARE TOTALLY AND PERMANENTLY INCAPACITATED, OR NOT.
We are not obliged to work while in Australia. Why force us to return here to twiddle our thumbs, overburden the health system and use up more public money ?
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Post by latindancer on Mar 13, 2012 13:17:16 GMT 7
If the Australian Government didn't waste so much money, perhaps the cost of living for pensioners in Australia would not be below the poverty line. Hear hear |
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Post by Banker on Mar 13, 2012 13:39:39 GMT 7
I've got a comment. On the same day this story came out (today), the Federal opposition are calling for an increase in foreign aid to Afghanistan which is already at a staggering A$165,000,000 as of the last budget. This amount of course pales in comparison when viewed against the estimated A$558,000,000 million given to Indonesia, making Indonesia the largest recipient of Australian aid. With almost three quarters of a billion dollars paid to just these two countries alone in aid, who gives a damn whether $600,000,000 is paid to Australian pensioners who chose to live where they want to live. If the Australian Government didn't waste so much money, perhaps the cost of living for pensioners in Australia would not be below the poverty line. +1 |
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Post by Banker on Mar 13, 2012 14:08:40 GMT 7
MORE than $600 million is being paid in pensions to Australians living overseas. A Herald Sun investigation has found about 75,000 Australians living abroad were sent Federal Government payments last year, including about 65,000 pensioners. Most are migrants who have returned to their countries of origin. Migrants from anywhere in the world who have lived in Australia for at least 10 years can receive a full pension. The number of people collecting Australian pensions while living overseas has risen seven-fold in the past 30 years. Benefits are being sent to pensioners living in more than 70 different countries. Italy, Greece and New Zealand are by far the most popular offshore havens for pensioners, reflecting those countries' large immigrant populations. Australia has reciprocal arrangements with 22 countries to ensure our citizens get social security protection when they move to those countries. We have been a net beneficiary of these arrangements, with more cash from overseas countries paid to pensioners living here than we pay to pensioners living in foreign countries. But the gap is closing. It was more than $4 coming in for every $1 going offshore a decade ago but is less than half that now. Experts predict "Anglo Australians" will increasingly choose to spend at least their early retirement years living in places like Bali or other parts of South-East Asia where their pension has greater buying power. Demographer Bernard Salt said the high Australian dollar would make offshore retirement even more attractive. "Americans do this to the Bahamas and places like Costa Rica and the Brits do it to places like Spain," he said. "I would expect with the high dollar for that to increase in the future and as the volume of people pushing across the retirement line I think we'll see a lot more Baby Boomers choose this option." Fewer than 1500 Australian pensioners were living in Asia in June 2010, including just 73 in Indonesia, 91 in Vietnam, 320 in Thailand and 436 in the Philippines. Whatever the motives, Mr Salt said taxpayers should embrace the growing exodus as it eased the burden on our services, particularly hospitals and other parts of the health sector. In 2000, $1.4 billion in pension payments flowed into Australia, more than four times the $310 million sent offshore. By 2010 this had fallen to $1.2 billion, little more than double the decade-high $571 million sent offshore that year. goo.gl/FHIe3 |
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Post by Banker on Mar 13, 2012 14:11:24 GMT 7
Some interesting comments on this if you click the link
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Post by spaceyone on Mar 13, 2012 17:12:40 GMT 7
I've got a comment. On the same day this story came out (today), the Federal opposition are calling for an increase in foreign aid to Afghanistan which is already at a staggering A$165,000,000 as of the last budget. This amount of course pales in comparison when viewed against the estimated A$558,000,000 million given to Indonesia, making Indonesia the largest recipient of Australian aid. With almost three quarters of a billion dollars paid to just these two countries alone in aid, who gives a damn whether $600,000,000 is paid to Australian pensioners who chose to live where they want to live. If the Australian Government didn't waste so much money, perhaps the cost of living for pensioners in Australia would not be below the poverty line. +1 + 3 Don't forget the $6 billion that was handed to the disability employment industry last year. We have seen the advantages of that - not.
And the billions squandered upon the other employment agencies, who get paid not to do their jobs. |
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Post by zorro1 on Mar 13, 2012 19:02:51 GMT 7
I've got a comment. On the same day this story came out (today), the Federal opposition are calling for an increase in foreign aid to Afghanistan which is already at a staggering A$165,000,000 as of the last budget. This amount of course pales in comparison when viewed against the estimated A$558,000,000 million given to Indonesia, making Indonesia the largest recipient of Australian aid. With almost three quarters of a billion dollars paid to just these two countries alone in aid, who gives a damn whether $600,000,000 is paid to Australian pensioners who chose to live where they want to live. If the Australian Government didn't waste so much money, perhaps the cost of living for pensioners in Australia would not be below the poverty line. +1 Kind of puts in perspective |
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Post by zodiac on Mar 14, 2012 10:36:40 GMT 7
I've got a comment. On the same day this story came out (today), the Federal opposition are calling for an increase in foreign aid to Afghanistan which is already at a staggering A$165,000,000 as of the last budget. This amount of course pales in comparison when viewed against the estimated A$558,000,000 million given to Indonesia, making Indonesia the largest recipient of Australian aid. With almost three quarters of a billion dollars paid to just these two countries alone in aid, who gives a damn whether $600,000,000 is paid to Australian pensioners who chose to live where they want to live. If the Australian Government didn't waste so much money, perhaps the cost of living for pensioners in Australia would not be below the poverty line. +1 The top ten countries for Australia Government aid in 2011-2012 (in millions of dollars) Indonesia- 558.1 Papua New Guinea- 482.3 Solomon Islands- 261.6 Afghanistan -165.1 Vietnam -137.9 East Timor -123.7 Philippines -123.1 Pakistan -92.8 Bangladesh- 92.0 Cambodia- 64.2 |
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Post by wbmania72 on Mar 14, 2012 11:30:19 GMT 7
"In 2000, $1.4 billion in pension payments flowed into Australia, more than four times the $310 million sent offshore.
By 2010 this had fallen to $1.2 billion, little more than double the decade-high $571 million sent offshore that year"
i wonder if any of these countrys ever winge and whine about the pension they pay to their citizen's lives overseas?
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