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Post by spaceyone on Apr 22, 2012 12:37:53 GMT 7
I had the idea today to make an online petition, demanding that corrupt Centrelink employees be properly investigated. I am posting the text, asking for input from you guys, before I go ahead and make it. I will then put a link to it here, on facebook, and on some other forums. I am sure Banker will want to add it to the AustralianPensioner site as well  . Once we have enough signatures, I will print it all out and send it to the new Minister, to let him know what we think of his recent high praise of the severely broken agency he has inherited. (Punishment for sticking up for Rudd probably.) All comments will be greatly appreciated. Maybe we should add something about them having their employment terminated for misconduct as well, instead of just being moved sideways or denied one bonus payment for the year.
To the new Minister for Human Services, Senator Kim CarrWe the undersigned have all experienced misconduct and corrupted dealings with employees of Centrelink. We have lodged complaints about same within a variety of agencies including Centrelink Head Office, the Ombudsman's Department, the Office of Information Australia and at Ministerial levels. Our complaints have been ignored, mishandled and not followed through to satisfactory resolution. Centrelink is being allowed to get away with corrupted dealings, on all levels. We demand that a new investigation process, for Centrelink matters and employees, is designed and implemented as quickly as possible. It must be completely independant from DEEWR and the government. An existing organisation similar to Welfare Rights might be charged with administering it. The current process of allowing Centrelink to investigate itself, has shown for a long time that it is not only not working, but being exploited. We demand that this practice be ended now. We no longer have enough confidence in the Ombudsman's Department to allow it being put in charge of any new processes. While they have criticised Centrelink in the past and have also recommended changes in the same matters, on the whole, their staff have shown that they are willing to cover up for fellow public servants, to save them from having their employment terminated for misconduct. A group of people, selected from those who have lodged and/or proven serious complaints against Centrelink staff should be invited to assist in the process of designing the new honesty measures. These people know what games Centrelink play, and have experienced the methods they employ to stall any investigations until the complainant has given up and walked away. The compensation process for harship caused by flawed Centrelink decisions should once again be decided by an independant court house, rather than being processed through a government agency. This was the case years ago, but was changed. We demand it be changed back, to ensure a fair go for us. Signed by: Hopefully thousands of their previously silent victims, in an anomynous form.  |
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Post by Banjo on Apr 22, 2012 13:27:03 GMT 7
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Post by newtodsp on Apr 22, 2012 14:45:10 GMT 7
Hi Spaceyone I think the idea of an online petition is a great one. However, I have a few comments: "To the new Minister for Human Services, Senator Kim Carr
We the undersigned have all experienced misconduct and corrupted dealings with employees of Centrelink."1) your current format limits signatories to those who have experienced misconduct and corrupt dealings. I think a petition which allows anyone who supports investigations into Centrelink dealings, to sign, will widen the appeal of the petition. Centrelink is being allowed to get away with corrupted dealings, on all levels.2) These generalisations may alienate some potential signatories. I'm wondering if its possible to hone in to the main points and make the 'commentary' more streamlined? I feel it is rather lengthy and could be edited. Note that avaaz has campaign tools which allow you to share on facebook, twitter, email and attach pics (i think). www.avaaz.org/en/petition/They have some highly successful campaigns like 'save the dolphins' with 20,000 signatures. I think there could be something to gain by looking at their format and style. I also assume for the petition to be presented to the government, it must have genuine names and addresses? There is a guidelines somewhere on the web as to what encompasses an 'acceptable' standard for petition presentation to the government. Good on you Spaceyone for organising this! The avaaz tool presents much better than any of the other tools I've seen so far. |
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Post by spaceyone on Apr 22, 2012 18:47:29 GMT 7
Thanks for the great suggestions, newtodsp.
I will check out avaaz.
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Post by Banjo on Apr 24, 2012 17:03:47 GMT 7
This topic made the Google Alerts today.
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Post by spaceyone on Apr 24, 2012 17:35:19 GMT 7
Cool. I haven't reworked it yet, I have been giving their online FOI request form a work out. So much easier annoying them from the comfort of my own home I have requested my son's file, and my daughter's. It will make for some lengthy but entertaining reading. I realised today why I didn't find too much corruption within the last 43 pages of my own file I received, when I changed C/L branches. It covered a period of just two months. They had left out the two main pages. From the day that I lodged my second DSP application, to a few days later where I am fighting them to let me appeal their immediate rejection of same, is missing from what they had supplied. A whole week, just seems to have disappeared from my dealings with them. Make sure you look through the page numbering of your files, to make sure they are all there. I have put in a request for the missing pages. I have also lodged about 20 applications to make changes to certain records. They will not allow you to delete them in NSW, but in some other states they do. So I have written the truth to be edited in to replace their twistings of the truth. I see that people have been signing the petition against the Basics Card. So I will get back to work on this one soon. In light of the Butterworth decision, it is a good time to put pressure on them. I was going to lodge my fraud charges against On-Q HR with the police today, but I had a flat tyre. Will get to that as well. FOI online request form link is on this page: www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/freedom-of-information/forms.australia.gov.au/forms/servlet/SmartForm.pdf?formCode=CLFOI |
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Post by spaceyone on Apr 24, 2012 17:39:47 GMT 7
Jooliar doesn't seem to want anyone looking into corruption within the public service. I came across this article earlier today. Labor rejects call for national corruption agencyThe Gillard government has rejected a parliamentary committee's recommendation to establish a national anti-corruption watchdog to oversee all Commonwealth agencies. The joint parliamentary committee on the Australian Commission for Law Enforcement Integrity said ''more needed to be done'' to detect and prevent corruption across Commonwealth agencies. At present, only the Australian Federal Police, the Australian Crime Commission and Customs are subject to special scrutiny by the Law Enforcement Integrity Commissioner, Philip Moss. Mr Moss has no powers to investigate dozens of other Commonwealth departments and agencies, including those with law enforcement functions, such as the Tax Office and the Immigration Department. The committee, headed by Labor MP Melissa Parke, found the public would benefit if all Commonwealth public sector agencies were overseen by a single anti-corruption watchdog. New South Wales, Queensland and Western Australia have all had long-running anti-corruption commissions covering all state public servants. Victoria is expected to get its own broad anti-corruption body this year. ''The committee recognises that there is very little evidence of serious or systemic corruption in the Australian public service. However, it is also of the view that there is an insufficient detection capability,'' the committee's final report concluded. ''In the present state of affairs, there could be a lot of 'undisturbed rocks' that need to be overturned if the public is to be fully assured that integrity in the public sector is being properly maintained.'' But the government has rejected the push for an over-arching corruption watchdog, saying its response to the committee last Friday that its policy on preventing corruption was ''based on the premise that no single body should be responsible''. The government also said it would not act on another recommendation to include bodies such as the Tax Office, the Quarantine and Inspection Service and the Immigration Department under the jurisdiction of the Law Enforcement Integrity Commissioner. The Commonwealth Ombudsman, academics and anti-corruption experts told the committee Australia would benefit from a Commonwealth integrity commission. Former United Nations anti-corruption adviser Howard Whitton told the inquiry that the lack of a national body to protect against public sector corruption meant Australia was not complying with the UN Convention on Corruption-an agreement Australia had signed. www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-rejects-call-for-national-corruption-agency-20120214-1t468.html#ixzz1sx9pQtyA |
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Post by Banker on Apr 24, 2012 19:15:40 GMT 7
I had the idea today to make an online petition, demanding that corrupt Centrelink employees be properly investigated. I am posting the text, asking for input from you guys, before I go ahead and make it. I will then put a link to it here, on facebook, and on some other forums. I am sure Banker will want to add it to the AustralianPensioner site as well . Once we have enough signatures, I will print it all out and send it to the new Minister, to let him know what we think of his recent high praise of the severely broken agency he has inherited. (Punishment for sticking up for Rudd probably.) All comments will be greatly appreciated. Maybe we should add something about them having their employment terminated for misconduct as well, instead of just being moved sideways or denied one bonus payment for the year.
To the new Minister for Human Services, Senator Kim CarrWe the undersigned have all experienced misconduct and corrupted dealings with employees of Centrelink. We have lodged complaints about same within a variety of agencies including Centrelink Head Office, the Ombudsman's Department, the Office of Information Australia and at Ministerial levels. Our complaints have been ignored, mishandled and not followed through to satisfactory resolution. Centrelink is being allowed to get away with corrupted dealings, on all levels. We demand that a new investigation process, for Centrelink matters and employees, is designed and implemented as quickly as possible. It must be completely independant from DEEWR and the government. An existing organisation similar to Welfare Rights might be charged with administering it. The current process of allowing Centrelink to investigate itself, has shown for a long time that it is not only not working, but being exploited. We demand that this practice be ended now. We no longer have enough confidence in the Ombudsman's Department to allow it being put in charge of any new processes. While they have criticised Centrelink in the past and have also recommended changes in the same matters, on the whole, their staff have shown that they are willing to cover up for fellow public servants, to save them from having their employment terminated for misconduct. A group of people, selected from those who have lodged and/or proven serious complaints against Centrelink staff should be invited to assist in the process of designing the new honesty measures. These people know what games Centrelink play, and have experienced the methods they employ to stall any investigations until the complainant has given up and walked away. The compensation process for harship caused by flawed Centrelink decisions should once again be decided by an independant court house, rather than being processed through a government agency. This was the case years ago, but was changed. We demand it be changed back, to ensure a fair go for us. Signed by: Hopefully thousands of their previously silent victims, in an anomynous form. I will be pleased to link it to our web site: ;D www.australianpensioner.org/ |
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Post by spaceyone on Apr 25, 2012 6:55:40 GMT 7
Not long out of bed, so my creative writing skills aren't the best atm. How about this as text for the petition?
Petition to Stop Corruption Within Centrelink
We, the people of Australia, have been made aware that Centrelink staff have been depriving people of wefare payments, or their full entitlement, by way of deceit and bullying. This must stop.
Centrelink staff are over-ruling medical reports by qualified GP's, Specialist and other associated health professionals, to deny sick people the DSP. This must be stopped.
Centrelink staff are misusing their ability to access our private information, and recording untruths in their own records. They have found ways to exploit, or circumvent, measures which are supposed to keep them honest. This must stop.
Centrelink staff have been denying people welfare payments, by simply pretending that they lost their application forms or sending mail to an incorrect address. This must stop.
We are aware that anyone who tries to argue with misconduct at their Centrelink branch, is then coded as being agresssive and their subsequent complaints ignored. This must stop.
The review process is severely flawed, and also being exploited by Centrelink staff. This must stop.
Centrelink deliberately delays and stalls reviews of cases where they have already acted illegally or inappropriately, in the hope the complainant will give up. This is not acceptable.
Centrelink staff being assigned to investigate corruption within their own branches, does not work and is being exploited. This must stop.
The public vilification of all welfare recipients by Hank Jorgen is not appropriate. Many corrupt public servants and employment agency staff are ripping off the welfare system, but you have laws to protect them from being named and shamed. This must stop.
The government is upgrading their protection for corrupt employees, while taking away our FOI rights. This must stop.
The FOI department of Centrelink also acts corruptly to deny information to applicants, to protect guilty Centrelink employees. This must stop.
Employment agencies have bankrupted and severely rorted funds allocated to their industry many times over. They have been able to do this, because we are forced to attend them. We demand that they be made to earn their money properly, and to only be paid for successfully assisting someone into a course or job.
This petition, will be sent to the Minister for Human Services. If no action is taken, or no negotiations entered into, we will start demonstrating outside Centrelink branches, calling for fair and honest service, and the disconnection of private employment agencies from government funding.
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Post by Banjo on Apr 25, 2012 7:12:11 GMT 7
That's pretty good space, easy to read and to the point. Did you think about getting up a few volunteers and getting a hard copy version up? You should get plenty of signatures outside your local Centrelink offices. The hardest part of this whole business is getting the message out, we busted our guts recruiting when this board started for less than 200 members in 2 years... and most of them are Siddhartha.  There are nearly a million people out there on the DSP alone, not counting the NewStart people who are really getting f***ed around. If we could get them organised as a voting block do you think that idiot Hockey would be slagging us off? |
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Post by spaceyone on Apr 25, 2012 7:13:52 GMT 7
I meant to include in the above:
People who have lived in worked and Australia for all of their lives, but now spend a lot of time overseas, are being deemed to be non-residents, to deny them a payment. This practice also denies them other basic rights, ie, medicare and concession cards. This must stop.
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Post by spaceyone on Apr 25, 2012 7:17:32 GMT 7
That's pretty good space, easy to read and to the point. Did you think about getting up a few volunteers and getting a hard copy version up? You should get plenty of signatures outside your local Centrelink offices. Since I am banned from going near any Centrelink office in Australia at the moment, for demanding justice in relation to all the corruption I experienced at their hands, my arrest for trying to gain signatures on the petition might make for some newsworthy scenes. |
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Post by Banjo on Apr 25, 2012 7:28:18 GMT 7
Step out the minimum distance and set up a tent city?
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Post by Banker on Apr 25, 2012 8:42:46 GMT 7
Good one spacey.
The public vilification of all welfare recipients by Hank Jorgen is not appropriate. Many corrupt public servants and employment agency staff are ripping off the welfare system, but you have laws to protect them from being named and shamed. This must stop.
I would also like to see that Centrelink staff that are found guilty of fraud can be named & shamed.
Expose these BASTARDS.
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Post by rowdy on Apr 25, 2012 9:55:19 GMT 7
Hi Spaceyone,
Have you made your allegations of corruption to the Commonwealth Ombudsman previously? If so did they reply to you in writing?
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