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Post by Banjo on Nov 8, 2012 12:12:06 GMT 7
One of our members heard back from Warren Entsch today,
Firstly, you can go overseas for 13 weeks at present and yes, as at 1st January 2013 it reduces to 6 weeks only before you are cut off from the DSP unless you have the ‘no future work capacity’ portability.
Secondly, if as you say, you definitely cannot work because of your condition you should have no problem passing the medical as per the statement below:
'no future work capacity' portability provisions
From 1 July 2012 a customer is allowed indefinite portability of Disability Support Pension (DSP) if they are either:
assessed in Australia as;
having a 'severe impairment' and that this level of impairment is likely to remain for at least 5 years, and
having no (less than 2 hours per week) future work capacity independently of an ongoing program of support and that this level is likely to remain for at least 5 years, or
Assessed as manifestly qualified for DSP under the current manifest guidelines.
This is good work by the member and exactly what we need to build up a log of.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 12:37:19 GMT 7
banjo i still dont understand the 2 hr a week future work capacity,please explain,surly ANYone can work at something 2 hrs a blody week.thanks.
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Post by Banjo on Nov 8, 2012 14:37:09 GMT 7
You want ME to explain it?
Dude, I don't think they understand it themselves.
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Post by zorro1 on Nov 8, 2012 15:26:25 GMT 7
Ill bite 2 hours a week. You must be capable of catching a bus or drive a car to anywhere but lets say its your local bowls club where you assist in coordinating the bowls schedule for the week and do a bit of paperwork, and for this you get paid $100 The amount of work is 2-5 hours approx. The 2 hour rule would not count if you had to work from home. Home is not a work place as defined by c/link as there is a whole lot of red tape involved eg setting up a company. however if you volunteered to work from home that would count but c/link cant force you. So if your severly disabled but can still sit at your home pc desk and type like me, you DO NOT have to work so you cant do the 2 hours I just made all of the above up but to me it sounds logical  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 16:17:48 GMT 7
zorro,if you need a doctors report then you go 2 your doctor ,he Must tell the truth,i no lots of people on dsp and i bet there doctor if telling the truth would say they can work at something 2 hrs a week,and that would go 4 almost all people on dsp,so we have no chance in hell of getting portability,well thats how i see it .
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Post by zorro1 on Nov 8, 2012 18:38:06 GMT 7
Terry
JCA decides not the doc
The doctor needs to sign off on the 5 year rule.
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Post by hypoman on Nov 9, 2012 6:19:21 GMT 7
Ill bite 2 hours a week. You must be capable of catching a bus or drive a car to anywhere but lets say its your local bowls club where you assist in coordinating the bowls schedule for the week and do a bit of paperwork, and for this you get paid $100 The amount of work is 2-5 hours approx. The 2 hour rule would not count if you had to work from home. Home is not a work place as defined by c/link as there is a whole lot of red tape involved eg setting up a company. however if you volunteered to work from home that would count but c/link cant force you. So if your severly disabled but can still sit at your home pc desk and type like me, you DO NOT have to work so you cant do the 2 hours I just made all of the above up but to me it sounds logical bugger zorro. i actually felt a tinge of hope then. until you said you made it up! waaaahhhhh it does sound logical though. I'm getting more and more disapointed with the way this govt is heading. wish i could just tell them to jam the DSP and head back to my family and live on rice and dried fish but i cant... shit |
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Post by Banjo on Nov 9, 2012 9:06:26 GMT 7
Even rice and dried fish costs mate.
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Post by baranghope on Nov 10, 2012 3:47:35 GMT 7
I think they think we can all work 2 hours right? It is just an ad hoc number designed to deny all but the most invalid any chance at being granted portability. As far as us dspers are concerned they think we can all work thus: Hours worked Generally, people with disability who were employed were more likely than people without disability to work part time (38% and 31% respectively). The number of hours usually worked by people with disability was associated with the severity and type of disability they had. People with profound or severe disability who worked were more likely to work part-time hours than those with less severe disability. Nevertheless, almost half (49%) of those with profound or severe disability who were working, worked full time. Among the five disability groups, psychological and intellectual disabilities have greater association with fewer working hours. More than a third (35%) of people with psychological disability who worked, usually worked no more than 15 hours, followed by people with intellectual disability (30%). In contrast, about two thirds of employed people with sensory or speech disability (66%) or physical disability (61%) worked full time. Cannot load Table Chart from AusStats: www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4102.0Main+Features40March+Quarter+2012#INT |
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Post by nomadic on Jan 14, 2013 14:09:06 GMT 7
Hi banjo, I think this politician may be wrong. I am considered to have irreversible and permanent disabilities and no work capacity. C/L concede this. But while i have been deemed as severely disabled since 2006 i am no longer severely under these new and brutal impairment tables so i'm still appealing this as when i return after this thirteen weeks in Feb i will then be on six weeks as it now stands. I have an aquired brain injury but i don't get any points for that. i only get points for what parts of my body are affected individually. And while i get 35 points (3x10 & 1x5) in total i need to get at least 20 out of a maximum of 30 for at least one individual thing and to get 20 points you need to have no larms or legs almost from what i have seen. The ARO told me if i could get on an aeroplane then i couldn't be severely. So now i go to SSAT and maybe the federal court again and the taxpayers will foot all the bills which in my case are already over $250,000.00 so a barrister told me. Give me the 250K and i will stop wasteing everybodies time at least. My advice is to appeal every time if you think it is unjust. Maybe one day the public will see just how illogical it all is and no one else to blame other than the politicians as centrelink only follows the rules they make. Nomadic.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 14, 2013 17:46:39 GMT 7
The point system is definitely wrong, the legislation says "no future work capacity" that covers a lot more things than just disability.
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Post by hypoman on Jan 14, 2013 20:03:56 GMT 7
ha.. i bet 'today tonight' or one of those shows would love it if we all started all these appeals costing the govt so much. then the publicity might shed some light on our plight... imagine if we all cost the govt say 200k each they would have to listen to us or the public would create an outcry... only problem is then they may pull funding for our free legal battles.... Im getting to dislike the aussie govt so much....
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Post by hypoman on Jan 14, 2013 20:04:18 GMT 7
oops.sorry. double posted..
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