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Post by zorro1 on Jan 7, 2013 20:20:47 GMT 7
Peter, a very interesting line of thought and makes a lot of sense because there are so many aspects of our lives that we can not control.
however it would take a lot of effort to get your head into that gap space in the first place sort of negating the benefits in the short term and would take a lot of practice because not thinking is not natural and goes against everything we have had drummed into us by family and society in general
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Post by peter on Jan 8, 2013 23:58:35 GMT 7
Hello LD. Yes, Epstein is interesting. Also interesting is Eckhart Tolle whose book "The Power Of Now" has 1,500 reviews on Amazon. Another author on the Soul Mind is Joel Goldsmith. His books.........actually his spontaneous talks given not from his intellect but his Soul include "The Thunder Of Silence". "Beyond Words And Thoughts", "Living Now". "The Art Of Meditation" and about thirty others.
Goldsmith was man who lived beyond the kiddie mind of thought. He lived in the Silence Of The Soul Mind. For fifteen years he had a healing practice that averaged 137 cases a day of healing minds sickened by thoughts.
How did he do it? He dissolved the thoughts.......the demonstration being that the Light Of The Soul Mind does dissolve the darkness of human thinking..............and he demonstrated that and taught on that premise all his life. The Buddhist practice is the same.
Walter Lanyon is another author very instructional on this.
These books have little value if read as books, but they have great value if read a few pages a day. In my case, I read such books every morning for an hour, and it takes me a month to finish one and the titles are only 200 pages long.
Reading Goldsmith is really a way to pacify and cleanse the mind. After an hour spent reading him one feels that the mind has been washed. Thereafter,the troubles of the day have less to attach themselves to and pass one by....................or one passes them by is a better way to put it since the mind is so much less reactive.
It is only the non reactive mind......the purer mind .........that is able to practice .............."do not judge" .....and can .........."go and sin no more"................ because the only sin in these terms is thought.............the worship of the idols............the thoughts of the mind....................the carnal mind........the mind of iniquity.
Sickness is only a collection of thoughts entombed in the mind. Louise Hay in her work especially "You Can Heal Your Life" gives the specific mental condition behind each physical sickness..............and when one realises that it is thinking that makes one sick, then one has the key to recovery.
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Post by peter on Jan 9, 2013 0:26:39 GMT 7
Hello Zorro. Yes society values the intellect. We have universities set up to polish and refine and do gymnastics with the intellect and we value this false mind so highly.
We have been taught to think that thinking is natural..........and that is almost unquestioned or if it is questioned it is only that we should refine our thinking so that we become "positive thinkers".
But that does not change what thinking is. Thinking is allowing thought forms to exist in the mind. Thought forms are dreams. We can have the furniture of good dreams or bad dreams but it is still dreams.
What is it that manufactures dreams? It is the imagination.
So if one is a "positive thinker" one can use the imagination to generate positive dreams, but one has to keep at it less the house of thoughts decays which is its natural tendency, and eventually happens.
Many have imagined themselves into wealth, but then the intensity of their imagination lessened and they learned that "money has wings"............but the more accurate explanation is "thought weakens".
A good example of the limitation of thought is when a man comes to the end of his tether and is forced to face some impossible situation and at that point declares "well, I give up!" and what follows is not his destruction but his solution.
And what did he give up? He gave up his thinking.........his attempt to solve a problem with his thinking and one only makes it worse.............."agree quickly with your enemy and let him go".
Thoughts are lifeless...........yes they have a life but its a shadow life...........and nothing much can grow from shadows. People plan and plan, but nothing grows from it, because they are dealing with these shadows.
An enlightened man is not really one who has gained Light, but rather one who has eliminated shadows, then you will see wisdom and growth and harmony.
One sees so many educated idiots that one wonders what they learned. The answer is that they learned so many thoughts that they can hardly open doors let alone repair door handles. Its not that they are too smart to repair door handles but rather so stuffed with thoughts to the point of stupidity.
Too much thinking does that.
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Post by Banker on Jan 9, 2013 5:25:04 GMT 7
Members, Can we please get this back on topic.
It causing me to think too much.
Banker
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Post by latindancer on Jan 9, 2013 6:26:38 GMT 7
Ok boss. We are digressing. And I agree wholeheartedly with you here : I disagree with you in part Banjo . If its an Important decision DEMAND to get it in writing. You are entitled to this, If they ask you why you want it in writing just say because you don't trust them. With just a receipt # they can say that person no longer works for C/L, look at Gordon's case with the Video evidence and when he tried to serve the papers on the C/L staff member. Lets not forget the problems that spaceyone had. I am advising our members so they can protect themselves against the C/L corruption. Although apart from corruption, it's often rather stupid individuals who got it wrong, then trying to cover their arses and protect their precious jobs. The receipt number means little really.
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Post by Banker on Jan 9, 2013 6:48:56 GMT 7
Ok boss. We are digressing. And I agree wholeheartedly with you here : I disagree with you in part Banjo . If its an Important decision DEMAND to get it in writing. You are entitled to this, If they ask you why you want it in writing just say because you don't trust them. With just a receipt # they can say that person no longer works for C/L, look at Gordon's case with the Video evidence and when he tried to serve the papers on the C/L staff member. Lets not forget the problems that spaceyone had. I am advising our members so they can protect themselves against the C/L corruption. Although apart from corruption, it's often rather stupid individuals who got it wrong, then trying to cover their arses and protect their precious jobs. The receipt number means little really. L.D. Doing a deal on a hand shake are long gone.... I do not trust many people even more so if they work at C/L.
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Post by latindancer on Jan 9, 2013 8:35:37 GMT 7
Yes....I was saying it more for other peoples' benefit than yours, Banker. I know you're a very experienced person. The thing is : only naive people would do a deal and seal it with a handshake, but they WOULD rely on simply getting a receipt # for a Centrelink call. Whereas doing that is naive, because it relies on the honesty and good memory of the individual staff officer involved. It is just the same as relying on a handshake for a business deal.
Folks: don't do that. If in doubt, as them for the decision or whatever it is IN WRITING. And let the person you are speaking to know that you definitely expect it, and that it is your right to request it.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 9, 2013 10:58:19 GMT 7
Yeah, anything that comes down to your word against ANYONE in a position of authority, tax officer, police, customs etc is going to be difficult but my point is that they are NOT going to write to you every five minutes; when the deal is done, the pension is restored or an appeal lost, sure you get a letter, but if it concerns details during the negotiations and you stop and say put that in writing then you are either going to be waiting for a long time or maybe miss out completely.
At some stage you have to trust them, few people here have had as much to do with them on an official level as me and I can't recall them ever going back on their word once a decision was reached.
Sure, I got a rough deal on a number of occasions and was often on the receiving end of some fairly ordinary accusations and allegations but if you insisted on having them put these up in writing they would laugh at you, it's part of the game which is about bullying people into giving up.... stick to your guns, wait till they DO write to you and take it from there.
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