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Post by spaceyone on May 16, 2013 10:34:35 GMT 7
So they want a letter form the GP and it's rejected on the grounds it isn't confirmed by a specialist...does sound a bit dodgy. By the way, you get 13 weeks to ask for a review with full back pay to the original claim date. Thanks for your advice BlahBlah, I hadn't been aware of that rule. I am just going off how it was when I applied a few years ago. But again, still trying to keep it in the official channel for which time rules apply, and which steps it along the process. I had written a longer reply to you, and then it failed to post. I was going to write it again, after saying hi to Zorro, but got a phone call from C/L. Another person not wanting it to go to ARO review, but who claims she just became aware that we applied and were knocked back. She has offered to take the application, and have it passed. I also got her to agreed to accept a letter from the GP confirming it will be a long wait on the elective surgery list as enough evidence, rather than wait for us to be able to get an appointment with a Specialist. So, even though I feel it is about to granted to cover up for some corrupt dealings which had been going on behind the scenes, rather than based on the medical condition and the evidence we did supply, that will be good enough for us
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Post by blahblahblah on May 16, 2013 12:13:48 GMT 7
You must be doing something right, sounds like they are bending over backwards to approve it with no review. Nice!
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Post by spaceyone on May 16, 2013 12:26:48 GMT 7
You must be doing something right, sounds like they are bending over backwards to approve it with no review. Nice! You just have to bear in mind that it is no longer a matter of presenting the information they need to pass, because they will ignore, discount or play word games with that. It is instead now a game of dirty tricks. So unfortunately, it does all come down to how you play it with them.
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Post by anotherdsp on May 16, 2013 16:37:10 GMT 7
to spacey,yep i figured there was a reason for c/l not wanting it to go any further and we both know what that is!! but glad to hear you have made some progress mate!! in the end it sucks really that they can play games with you when you are doing nothing wrong!!
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Post by spaceyone on May 16, 2013 16:45:20 GMT 7
to spacey,yep i figured there was a reason for c/l not wanting it to go any further and we both know what that is!! but glad to hear you have made some progress mate!! in the end it sucks really that they can play games with you when you are doing nothing wrong!! Thanks anotherdsp. Yes, it sucks that they treat us all as fakers, while throwing our proof in the bin. That makes them the fakers, not us.
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Post by spaceyone on May 21, 2013 10:08:39 GMT 7
I wish I had checked my letterbox before I listened to the crap that the C/L lady fed me on the phone, described in my last post. We had already received a letter claiming that we contacted them on a certain day and requested a form, authority for someone to act on a person's behalf, and they were sending it to us. That was the day we had actually lodged the ARO appeal, by phone. It also pretends to fill the FOI request made the next day by way of a proper signed form lodged at the branch, requesting roughly one year's worth of their customer contact records plus the most recently JCA. They enclosed a copy of the JCA, and say that finalizes our request for documents. During the two phone calls we received from local Centrelink staff after booking the ARO appeal, we instructed that they were not to cancel it, even though they were offering to look at his application again if we did. We received a letter yesterday, dated the day after we booked the appeal, stating that the appeal has been withdrawn, as per a contact we made to them. !?!?! After reading the mail on Friday, I emailed a complaint to Hank's office. I suggested that the first person who had contacted us must have been accessing my son's file illegally, to have obtained his phone number to make that call. I provided that person's name to them. I didn't give the name of the 'nice' lady who rang the following day. Hank's office phoned yesterday, claiming that they have reinstated the ARO appeal, and wanted the name of the second caller. They have phoned again today to assure us again, that it has been reinstated and is in progress. I was about to lodge our appeal with the SSAT
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Post by Banjo on May 21, 2013 10:41:20 GMT 7
There's definitely a strange disturbance in the force where SSATs are concerned this year, I had my appeal prepared in January, after a 6 month wait for the ARO to confirm their decision, and in the course of a conversation with a "nice" lady at Centrelink International she virtually promised me a 13 week head start on the OAP, making it hardly worth my while.
Of course that never happened but by the time it was sorted... and I had a receipt number for the call and her name, but all they would say is "she got it wrong"... it was hardly worth the bother again.
We're still really in a position where they can say what they like to us and deny it afterwards and there's no comeback unless you're prepared to spend months in the higher appeals system.
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Post by spaceyone on May 21, 2013 10:50:06 GMT 7
Yes, which are just a waste of the tax payers money, at the end of the day, but the only way for us to right a wrong decision.
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Post by tablet on May 21, 2013 16:12:52 GMT 7
There's no way that I can organise an application for UP, and then attend the JCA interview by myself. I can't afford a lawyer, NSW welfare rights have lost a lot of their funding, I don't have any friends who could pretend to be a lawyer, but gee, I wouldn't mind having spaceyone sitting next to me at the JCA.
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Post by spaceyone on May 22, 2013 11:32:36 GMT 7
There's no way that I can organise an application for UP, and then attend the JCA interview by myself. I can't afford a lawyer, NSW welfare rights have lost a lot of their funding, I don't have any friends who could pretend to be a lawyer, but gee, I wouldn't mind having spaceyone sitting next to me at the JCA. Thanks 1960 . I am happy to help anyone behind the scenes by pm, or in person, if they are in my area; lower Gold Coast or northern NSW. It is best to take someone with you to a JCA, so they cannot bully you, and to be a witness later on as to what occurred there. Not trusting Hank's office to do their job, I went online last night and lodged feedback about the three incidents with the three different staff members. Each time we have contacted Hank, asking for intervention to stop corruption, someone rings us up, claims they are looking into it, and repeatedly states that we should not contact Hank because he doesn't look into individual cases. Yet on his facebook page he pretends that he does, meaning someone in his office does for him. However, Hank's staff should apologise to us for the hassles we get put through, and having to take the time to contact him to try to get it sorted. Not try to get us to agree to never contact him again.
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Post by Banjo on Jun 17, 2013 8:17:04 GMT 7
We had a guy pass the assessment and was informed today after only a two week wait.
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Post by zingzingzing on Jun 17, 2013 10:28:53 GMT 7
That's not bad waiting time.
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Post by Banjo on Jun 17, 2013 11:01:12 GMT 7
If I was "waiting to see how the others do first" I couldn't think of a better time to apply than now.
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Post by spaceyone on Jul 3, 2013 17:01:30 GMT 7
Hey people Really down in the dumps tonight. Sent my son to live with relatives 1,000 kms away today. Just spent 6 months trying to get an appointment with a specialist. If you don't have private health cover, you have to wait a year. If you do have it, they might be able to fit you in within a couple of weeks. No idea what the bone tumor in son's arm is doing now, not had a scan for months now. Still not even on an elective surgery list. Have given notice on my flat, and about to give away all my furniture, etc, and hit the streets. Seems I will be in good company there, since so many good people get forced out of their homes, by government scum. Received my FOI request documents recently. They called up my son's application for DSP the same afternoon that we lodged it, and cancelled it. They had to reinstate it, after I hassled Hank online at his facebook page. Then I was banned from posting to it, so had no where to complain about the corruption at my local branch after that. They made us wait 6 weeks to then tell us we couldn't have it. As you might recall, they then cancelled his ARO appeal, the day after I lodged it, claiming that I had phoned them to do so. Staff at the local branch rang us offering to rush it through if I would cancel the appeal, and then did nothing when I would not. They made us wait to the 28th day, last day legally possible to do the ARO appeal, and of course turn it down. I tried to lodge an appeal at the SSAT and they told me that I could not. Tried to claim that the ARO reference number was not a valid format for ARO appeals. Well, of course I didn't take that crap, and his SSAT appeal is booked for a couple of weeks time. But I have given up. I can't get him to surgery, and I can't afford to keep sitting here handing him all of my cheque, while he sits on his ass playing computer games, while the system conspires to keep him out of the workforce, and off the appropriate payment. Maybe he will get medical help where he is now. I don't know. Maybe he will die waiting. At least I won't have to watch it happen now. Going through nicotine withdrawals at the moment, not had a ciggie for days. Won't be paying rent this week. The landlords can keep the bond instead, that Department of Housing tried so hard not to give us. Will I complain about any of their illegal dealings. No. Waste of time and keystrokes.
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Post by spaceyone on Jul 3, 2013 17:20:53 GMT 7
Forgot to add, that I ran into the 'nice' social worker in the street last night, after she had knocked off work. The same one who had rang to assure me she could just pass his application real quick in-house without an ARO appeal.
I was visibly distressed and leaving the police station. Told her I had just gone there to try to get a restraining order against Ziggy, because he had been in a dark mood and threatening me and himself, but the police station was closed and that I had to also get him on a plane today.
She laughed in my face. When I responded by asking if that was all she could think of do about my situation, she replied that I shouldn't abuse Centrelink staff. So I verbally abused her for 5 minutess at the top of my voice in our main street, before she could make her escape.
I hadn't raised my voice at any of them for over a year now. But I had lodged a complaint about her when she tried to deceive us. That's what Centrelink call abuse, putting in complaints about them. Its like dealing with 2-year olds, who won't take any responsibility for their own action, and have a tantrum when they don't get their own way.
If they don't want people to get angry, and I really am not quick to anger usually, then they should stop tormenting the people on welfare. I guess I will be banned again from going in there now. Oh well, I no longer have any children that I need to go and see about payments for anyway.
Way to go Murwillumbah and Tweed Heads branches! Another family destroyed. Bonus time for you guys, I bet.
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