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Post by Banjo on Mar 13, 2013 8:21:19 GMT 7
I realise that being depressed is a natural result of our lives being disrupted and occasionally destroyed but it's also an illness that can be treated. www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 12:29:58 GMT 7
I've suffered with it's extreme forms since early childhood; on and off debilitating medications for over 40yrs also. Beyond Blue is a top notch initiative who I would also recommend highly Banj, because they have the tools and show suffers how to use them! Any support group is a Godsend, and another tool I never believed would work for me and also worked wonders, was 2 years psychological counselling! Just having someone understand your illness and to know how to curb its onset, is something that has changed my life! Understanding; "what will be, will be", and that "every cloud has a silver lining"; are now my life creeds. Magical things happen when we know how to tame the Black Dog; then one day he visits us less and less, if at all:)) Cheetal...
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Post by bundyrum on Mar 14, 2013 3:29:22 GMT 7
uhmmm ..very hard to battle..it's hard to control...half my family is on medication and Mum just died of Dementia...but any help is good,,cheers..
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Post by Banker on Jun 5, 2013 16:14:26 GMT 7
Beyond Blue launches Man Therapy ad campaign to tackle male suicideNon-profit organisation Beyond Blue has launched a multi-million-dollar campaign to treat the high rate of male suicide around the nation. The federally funded Man Therapy campaign encourages men to take charge of their mental health. It features fictional "man's man" Dr Brian Ironwood as the campaign's humorous spokesman for advertisements on TV, radio and online. Man Therapy's website includes tools to help men recognise the signs of depression and anxiety and seek support. It also provides a discussion forum for men experiencing symptoms of mental illness. Beyond Blue chairman Jeff Kennett says the irreverent campaign seeks to urge men to reach out for help. "When you think for a moment that every week 33 men take their own lives, that in the age group of 14 to 44 the biggest killer of men is suicide, it is an indication that we have a lot to do," Mr Kennett said. "If this campaign has the effect we think it will have, it will further lower this feeling among so many men now that it is in some way a sign of weakness to reach out for help." Mental Health Minister Mark Butler says the campaign is not for the faint-hearted. "It taps into that great Aussie tradition of using humour or taking the piss to deal with issues that are awkward," Mr Butler said. If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call on 13 11 14. au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/17492709/beyond-blue-launches-man-therapy-ad-campaign-to-tackle-male-suicide/
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Post by mike on Jun 5, 2013 17:11:10 GMT 7
do not take the drugs they try to give you!!! smile, laugh and give yourself the seratonin in a natural way!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 5:28:24 GMT 7
do not take the drugs they try to give you!!! smile, laugh and give yourself the seratonin in a natural way!! Hi Mike: I hope your future posts are less demonstrative and more empathetic towards any sufferer of depression, and especially clinically diagnosed sufferers such as myself and many others who visit the forum. If you are able to smile, laugh or give yourself the doses of serotonin or dopamine that daily life warrants, then good for you and your obviously not a person who suffers serious depressive episodes or disorders! The problem with depression and especially clinical depression, is that serotonin and dopamine are precluded from uptake at the synaptic level; therefore mediated reuptake of a neurotransmitter from the synapse into the pre-synaptic neuron is necessary with SSRI's, leading to an increase in the extracellular concentrations of the neurotransmitter! So, as you suggest; it's not that easy for major depressive suffers to "Turn on a smile" mate:) Lets just keep a level head before we start suggesting to people with mental disabilities not to take there medication, ok mate! I'm sure you wouldn't tell a paraplegic person to pick themselves up and walk, would you? I realise that you did not infer offence Mike, but as you can see now, it most certainly can be taken that way. Cheers Mike, and keep on smiling:)
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Post by blahblahblah on Jun 6, 2013 6:37:34 GMT 7
Ask any psychiatrist and if they are honest they will tell you there is no scientific proof of the "chemical imbalance" theory of depression. If there was they would be able to test for it.
Additionally, studies have shown that up to 75% of the benefit of anti-depressants is due to the placebo effect. See the work of Irving Kirsch.
We can then look at how these drugs get approved for use. All that is needed are two studies that show an effect. Studies that are done by the drug companies themselves (cough, cough). Of course there is no limit to how many studies they can run to get these two successful studies as they don't have to report the unsuccessful ones.
Big pharma wants everyone taking a handful of pills a day. As an example, when the patent on prozac ran out, all of a sudden it was renamed and remarketed for premenstrual dysphoric disorder. Hurray, new patent!
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Post by blahblahblah on Jun 6, 2013 10:29:17 GMT 7
Good to receive your limited naïve retort, Blahblah:) Great way to start a discussion! What is this pseudo science you speak of? I don't recall using any so you will have to be more specific. I made a number of points, and they weren't mutually exclusive. so I don't see the problem with where my rebuttal lies. Trying to put words in my mouth? My intention was no more or no less than what I stated. Please provide a specific instance of me being wrong. Just because someone doesn't agree with your point of view doesn't make them wrong. Nor should it lead you to name calling. Of course, people who resort to name calling usually do so when they lack the evidence to make a real point. Reading comprehension? No body told anybody stop taking medication and anything I said about effects were supported from scientific studies. You talk of pseudo science, yet you use second hand anecdotal "evidence" with a sample size of one to make your point. Pretty sloppy. Congrats on weaning yourself off drugs. You continue to try to put words into my mouth though. I didn't say anything about "all medications" or "only offer placebo effect". You make a lot of assumptions of what I have and haven't read. How about instead of assumptions and trying to put words into my mouth you actually criticise what I wrote, instead of the personal attacks. You could also provide some evidence of your own perhaps. p.s. paragraphs would help
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Post by Banjo on Jun 6, 2013 13:53:48 GMT 7
I've deleted a post here, probably not completely fairly, but I'd like to keep this section uncontroversial. Mental illness is often little understood, so lets agree to disagree.
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Post by Banker on Jun 6, 2013 19:17:46 GMT 7
I must ask the members, please do not advise people what medication they should or should not take unless you are a fully qualified M.D.
Thank you for understanding.
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Post by bundyrum on Aug 20, 2013 4:42:54 GMT 7
the pills do help and I believe it's sometimes genetic..it's not a good feeling just wanting to go to sleep and not wake up..prolly y I'm alcohol dependent.with the Zoloft and codiene.
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Post by latindancer on Aug 20, 2013 7:12:25 GMT 7
Perhaps you'll feel better in a few weeks mate....Spring is just around the corner.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Aug 20, 2013 9:12:16 GMT 7
bundyrumHang in there mate.... Message me any time you feel like it if you ever want...
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Post by tim2013 on Aug 20, 2013 10:06:24 GMT 7
the society is the one to blame with all the fears and worries it creates. people are just full of fear 24-7!!
fear not to pay back loans fear to lose job fear to be lonely fear not to perform in bed fear to to this and that...
society makes ppl sick!!! with the creation of never ending demand for needs!
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Post by Denis-NFA on Aug 20, 2013 11:48:20 GMT 7
the society is the one to blame with all the fears and worries it creates. people are just full of fear 24-7!! fear not to pay back loans fear to lose job fear to be lonely fear not to perform in bed fear to to this and that... society makes ppl sick!!! with the creation of never ending demand for needs! Every single fear comes from inside us... I am terrified that one of the politicians in this election will say something and I will lose my UP.... it is an enormous fear I have... Overcome fear, do not ever borrow money... borrow help do not ever lose a job... create your own job... we are all worthy. do not be lonely... join dspoverseas ... do not fear bed... we are all individuals... do not fear life... send a private message to a member of this club. Kind Regards NFA
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