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Post by jane on Aug 18, 2013 10:38:18 GMT 7
hello everyone, may i ask if somebody knows about how will affect my Australian partner (DSP member) if i (Filipina) come to Australia and live with him? is his pension be cut off and what are the pros and cons to be with him in Australia? i hope somebody can enlighten me about these. thank you.
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Post by Banjo on Aug 18, 2013 11:20:32 GMT 7
hello everyone, may i ask if somebody knows about how will affect my Australian partner (DSP member) if i (Filipina) come to Australia and live with him? is his pension be cut off and what are the pros and cons to be with him in Australia? i hope somebody can enlighten me about these. thank you. I have two good friends on pensions who brought their Filipina Girlfriends to Australia in recent years. It took about a year of paperwork, one used an agent one didn't. Both men experienced an initial drop in pension but both girlfriends found jobs fairly quickly which more than made up for any other loss of income. We have a member here who brought his wife from Cambodia and his pension was not reduced to the married rate so it's not all bad news as the previous poster would have you believe. I can ask one of the girls if it's ok if you contact her if you like, I'd need your email address if it is acceptable but as I said I'll have to ask her first. |
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Post by macadamianut on Aug 18, 2013 11:22:50 GMT 7
Assurance of support has been scrapped tim as of 2013.
If you are able to work in Australia Jane, you would be earning a much higher wage than in the Philippines, the more you earn, the more your partners DSP will be cut. Is that a real problem though? does it matter who supports the family in this day and age?
If you are unable to work due to family commitments ie.kids or such. then you can still get a special payment equivalent to newstart. Any children should also get a family tax b payment also.
Maybe you could get a carers allowance if your partners disability warrants it.
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Post by Banjo on Aug 18, 2013 11:33:24 GMT 7
Some people are incapable of seeing that a higher joint income isn't better than one on a pension.
Both couples I mentioned are very happy and have been together around 10 years including time spent in the PI.
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Post by jane on Aug 18, 2013 11:50:34 GMT 7
when will the cut off starts? when we file for marriage or after marriage was done?
i am concern that i might cause him more trouble because he is on DSP and that i just want to be with him so he doesn't spend more money coming over to PI and that because he is in serious pain (part-of-life).
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Post by Banjo on Aug 18, 2013 11:56:41 GMT 7
Is living in the Philippines an option?
If he makes an application for the indefinite portability of his pension you could well have a better life in the Philippines.
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Post by macadamianut on Aug 18, 2013 12:02:50 GMT 7
The cutoff starts when you are both residing together whether married or not, in Philippines or in Australia.
(I should have said, his DSP is reduced, not cutoff, once you both live together full-time)
until my partner is living with me in Australia, I continue to get the full DSP rate as until then, I am just visiting her in Thailand, I don't live here.
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Post by jane on Aug 18, 2013 12:08:24 GMT 7
im afraid not, because as we review of the tables of the new portability pension which are not based on pain (neck injury), he stops working because how pain does affect him moving around. and with the DSP (which he only relies on) he cant stay longer than 4weeks and that he still have to save money for the next visit that's why we thought i will just come to Australia instead and be with him so less expense and less pain and stressing for him and i will help him support ourselves instead.
do the government automatically cuts off his pension as soon as i got in Australia under fiancee visa?
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Post by Banjo on Aug 18, 2013 12:10:17 GMT 7
OK, what I suggest you do is get the paperwork from the embassy, or maybe consider a local agent and see what is involved. They will not cut off his pension when you arrive in Australia, the worst case scenario is that they reduce it to half the married rate. Watch this thread for a few days, they may be more people come in with recent information. I wont allow anymore comment from people who don't know what they are talking about.  |
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Post by jane on Aug 18, 2013 12:33:37 GMT 7
thanks Banjo.
we have our papers ready, supporting documents and forms for applying visa.
we have checked agents (onshore and offshore)and both expensive. so i will just apply by my self.
offshore agents in PI are not aware of DSP pros and cons. so i came to you guys.. thanks for the help.
we will just start the processing my visa then and just apply for work as soon as possible when i get there in Australia for us to survive whenever they cut his pension off.
thanks for all who helped.
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Post by Banjo on Aug 18, 2013 12:55:48 GMT 7
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Post by macadamianut on Aug 18, 2013 13:06:04 GMT 7
Dont worry, they won't cut his pension off, at worse, payment gets reduced to around the $500 mark, but you could get a payment until you find a job, putting you ahead of the single dsp payment.
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Post by jane on Aug 18, 2013 14:55:37 GMT 7
thanks for the advice. i do understand that his pension will be reduced not cut off.
may i also ask if there is any government entitlements that i am eligible for or qualify for as we don't have any children.
and is there government funding or support if i study English for migrants?
i just wanna have a bigger picture of my entitlements, its just that my partner has difficulty getting on line and for me to be part and learn also about his DSP.
another question: is it worth paying on visa agents for applying prospective visa or i will just do it my self?
thank you for any help.
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Post by baranghope on Aug 18, 2013 15:17:38 GMT 7
Think Egypt Jane, now think Australia. There may be a political change here in September that over the ensuing months will be followed by all manner of cutbacks to visa migrants. Not trying to put the fright in you, but we may be in for a Murdoch NeoCon Deepfreeze here for a decade . . . so if I were you, get in as soon as you can. I'll trade places with you.
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Post by Banjo on Aug 18, 2013 15:21:46 GMT 7
thanks for the advice. i do understand that his pension will be reduced not cut off. may i also ask if there is any government entitlements that i am eligible for or qualify for as we don't have any children. and is there government funding or support if i study English for migrants? i just wanna have a bigger picture of my entitlements, its just that my partner has difficulty getting on line and for me to be part and learn also about his DSP. another question: is it worth paying on visa agents for applying prospective visa or i will just do it my self? thank you for any help. I think you should worry about getting to Australia first but there are certain programs for immigrants, some of them educational. It's not something we know a lot about here, most of our goals were about getting OUT of Australia. It wouldn't hurt see an agent, find out what it costs. As I said, plenty do it themselves. When you have made the application your boyfriend can talk to Centrelink about you then. Read more: dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/2415/australian-dsp-partner-filipina-fiancee?page=2#ixzz2cJ5sjzQG |
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