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Post by pedro on Oct 4, 2013 6:01:51 GMT 7
Hi guys and gals I am a new member and stumbled across your site and must say that it is full of very useful information, I might add that it seems a very polite mature website this is why I decided to become a member, anyhow pleased to meet you all.
Ok I have a question please someone may be able to answer for me, If I was to qualify for the indefinite pension as im pretty sure I would get the 30 points or close to it, once it is approved do they centrelink expect you to leave like pretty quick to live overseas or can you stay for like a few years before you go ? The reason im asking this is because id like to try and qualify for it before they make another change to the system and stop it or whatever. anyhow cheers and thanks !
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Post by Banjo on Oct 4, 2013 6:36:19 GMT 7
Welcome to the board Pedro.
My take on the Indefinite Portability of the pension is that you have 6 months to leave.
What you need to consider is that you have to have 20 points in ONE disability to qualify, you may have a total of 30 in several impairments eg 15/15 or 10/10/10 but this wont be good enough.
Send off for your forms and have a talk to your doctor.
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Post by pedro on Oct 4, 2013 7:56:28 GMT 7
Thanks heaps for the reply I just rang centrelink and asked about the forms for the portability and he said that they would send them out to me or they will call me to go in there, anyhow I did ask him if I was approved can I stay in Australia maybe a year or so and sell my things and tie up loose ends and the answer was I can stay as long as I like ? unless it needs to be reviewed again
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Post by Banjo on Oct 4, 2013 8:01:33 GMT 7
No problem, I'm just going on what a former member told me.
There's a lot we have to learn about the new portability and how we do it is contributing to DSPoverseas.
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Post by mick on Oct 4, 2013 11:31:59 GMT 7
Welcome to the board Pedro. My take on the Indefinite Portability of the pension is that you have 6 months to leave. What you need to consider is that you have to have 20 points in ONE disability to qualify, you may have a total of 30 in several impairments eg 15/15 or 10/10/10 but this wont be good enough. Send off for your forms and have a talk to your doctor. Banjo are you saying that if you are granted UP you need to leave after 6 months? Please tell me where you got that from... |
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Post by Banjo on Oct 4, 2013 14:41:57 GMT 7
If you take a look at my next post I agree that I could be mistaken.
A former member who was successful with the UP told me that he had 6 months to leave but I never inquired further.
To be honest I think it comes down to residency, if Centrelink believe that people on the UP must become non-residents then by remaining in Australia you could jeopodise this.
You need to ring up Centrelink International and see what they say.
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Post by mick on Oct 4, 2013 16:33:17 GMT 7
Nothing in the UP confirmation form said anything about a time limit.
I can't see CL forcing people to become non-residents just for not using there UP.
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Post by Banjo on Oct 4, 2013 17:26:02 GMT 7
They don't have any problem in considering people non-residents for spending too much time out of Australia.
I'm not sure what you mean by the last line, it would be more like them setting a time limit to become a non-resident if they consider it part of the indefinite portability.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Oct 4, 2013 18:29:23 GMT 7
the answer was I can stay as long as I like ? unless it needs to be reviewed again And that's the rub. Once I was granted portability I was not prepared to hang about to be subject to a potential review notwithstanding that there was no time limit on when I could depart. |
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Post by maca84 on Oct 4, 2013 19:28:37 GMT 7
is there a different between unlimited and indefinite portability or are they the same?
do we apply for one term or do we have to choose?
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Post by scallywag on Oct 5, 2013 4:45:31 GMT 7
As far as I can see unlimited portability is available to the terminally ill and indefinite portability is for those that are determined to be unable to do any work for the next 5 years. Indefinite because there may be treatment or interventions available in the future that may change ones ability to reenter the workforce.Just my interpretation.
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Post by maca84 on Oct 5, 2013 7:20:21 GMT 7
is that correct ? that would mean if someone is on indefinite portability he could be reviewed after 5 year.
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Post by scallywag on Oct 5, 2013 9:21:06 GMT 7
is that correct ? that would mean if someone is on indefinite portability he could be reviewed after 5 year. I don't know if that is correct but I assume that if you have a terminal illness you would be less likely to be reassessed. Indefinite = [Lasting for an unknown length of time] is self explanatory,isn't it? |
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Post by Banjo on Oct 5, 2013 10:03:39 GMT 7
Centrelink's guide uses indefinite, the Act uses unlimited.
Before section 1218AA
Insert:
1218AAA Unlimited portability period for disability support pension—severely impaired disability support pensioner
(1) The Secretary may make a written determination that a particular person’s maximum portability period for disability support pension is an unlimited period,
I know which one I take notice of.
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Post by maca84 on Oct 5, 2013 10:29:54 GMT 7
thankx banjo, that means if you stay out of australia its indefinite than.
but --- The Secretary may make a written determination
what does-- may-- means? done or not done yet?
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