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Post by mspurple on Jun 11, 2022 5:45:13 GMT 7
I can not help with anything centerlink but I think you might want to look into the problems of leaving your property vacant- last I knew you could not insure a vacant property as they are much more of a liability due to vandalism, squatters and lack of availability to know of and keep up with maintenance as soon as it is needed.
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Post by Banjo on Jun 11, 2022 6:24:32 GMT 7
tasjo was considering a similar move but the pandemic and other issues have put it on hold. No doubt she will have advice and suggestions based on her experience.
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Post by bear on Jun 11, 2022 8:11:09 GMT 7
G'day genny , rules regarding portability remain the same. If going to an agreement country, things may be easier regarding unlimited portability. Talk to Centrelink. No, Centrelink don't require you to sell everything to move overseas. Though if you have a house sitting vacant; after one continuous year away, they will contact you regarding your intentions with the property. If you intend to leave it sitting vacant, they will deem what is a reasonable rent and adjust your payment accordingly; irrespective of whether it's actually rented or not!! If you return to Australia once, within every twelve month period for a holiday, this never becomes an issue. mspurple makes a valid point regarding insurance. My house sat vacant for four years uninsured. Thankfully, a friend who went to check last year, said it just looked like I'd gone out to the shops. It was quite isolated though. If you review the links, I think the majority of your concerns will be already covered. Please ask any specific questions causing concern not covered in them. Cheers 🐻 dspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/6687/dsp-portability-overseas-carersdspoverseas.proboards.com/thread/5991/dsp-portability-carers
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Post by genx on Jun 11, 2022 10:23:45 GMT 7
and also can my wife take her carers pension with us as well? In relation to your wife's payment, this isn't portable at all. The first thing you will be asked is which country you are planning to go to. If it's a country with an agreement, note that your payment could be substantially lower than what you are getting in Australia, because you will get the same amount as the locals of that country. If you state that the country that you are planning to go to is a non agreement country (Thailand for example), then your portability application can proceed.
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Post by tasjo on Jun 11, 2022 14:23:47 GMT 7
Thanks Banjo - as mentioned, we were considering doing similar but plans stalled due to the pandemic (we werent going to an agreement country). Carers payment does have limited portability, which is confusing in itself - the carer can travel for periods of up to 6 weeks at a time but must then return to Australia. There is no limit to how often these trips can be made. However, to retain carers payment, they can only have respite from the person they care for for up to 63 days a year. Your FTB paymwnt would have similar portability (I think) - but may require you to stay in Oz for a certain length of time before leaving - last time I enquired it was 6 weeks before FTB 'reset'? Its the literal dogs breakfast Please also check whether the carers paymemt requires the person you are caring for to be resident in Australia, as someone with unlimited portability is still resident, whereas I'm not sure about the countries with agreememts.
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Post by tasjo on Jun 11, 2022 21:31:53 GMT 7
Genny - it will depend on what the agreement country has in place but generally carers paymemt isnt included in agreement country payments.
However, please contact international services because each country is different.
I might be wrong but my understanding was that if you were going to an agreememt country you dont need Unlimited Portability? Bear/Banjo- can you confirm please?
If however Carers Paymemt is not included in the Agreement, your wife would only currently receive 6 weeks paymemt, plus any unused respite days assuming you can show alternative care arrangements and that you still meet the criteria for Carers Paymemt to be paid.
You may also be paid FTB for the first 6 weeks
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Post by bear on Jun 12, 2022 6:47:08 GMT 7
NO cannot confirm unequivocally!! As previously advised; speak with Centrelink. The guide doesn't give specifics, just that there are different rules. Many years ago I inquired about UP in an office. I was told it could be done there and then on the day; that is until asked, 'to which country?' My country of choice wasn't on the list, so it was applying for UP or be damned so, SPEAK TO CENTRELINK!! General rules of portability Summary The portability period for social security payments varies depending on the payment. Portability rules by payment type can be found in the portability table (7.1.2.20). Summary
The portability period for social security payments varies depending on the payment. Portability rules by payment type can be found in the portability table (7.1.2.20).
However, these rules do not apply to recipients who are covered by an international social security agreement guides.dss.gov.au/social-security-guide/7/1/2/10 Summary of Portability under International Social Security Agreements and how they change the basic provisions of social security law.International social security agreements (1.1.A.120) International social security agreements are contained in the SS(IntAgree)Act. They change the basic provisions of social security law. Each international social security agreement has its own portability rules for the payments it covers. Age, DSP, WP, WidB, CP, and pension PPS are portable according to the coverage specified in the respective agreement. guides.dss.gov.au/social-security-guide/7/1/1/20International agreement with Slovenia FAQ's
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