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Post by bunyip on May 15, 2023 15:01:21 GMT 7
l am thinking of trying to find a part time job and geting DES like WEDA to help me but not sure and worried about how it could affect or risk my DSP and l have other questions. l am thinking of going into my centrelink office to enquire about it and my options, Should l ask to speak to a centrelink social worker or should l just ask to speak to the person at the centrelink office who deals with DSP's looking for work. Would a centrelink social worker be much use in this situation or would it be a waste of time and l should just go direct to the centrelink worker in charge of DSP's. anyone have experience with centrelink social workers
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Post by nomadic on May 15, 2023 20:13:25 GMT 7
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Post by tasjo on May 17, 2023 5:53:24 GMT 7
In my personal experience, both a complete waste of time. The only ones that were of any assistance (although for us it was how much my partner could earn while receiving carers payment) was calling the disability and carers number or the FIS Officers.
The FISO through how much we could earn each before DSP/Carers would reduce, when it would cut out completely, what income was assessable by Centrelink - all in a face to face meeting so we could take notes. I'm not sure if they still do the meetings (mine was pre covid) but if I was suggesting anything beyond basic income thresholds I'd ask them.
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Post by dswau on May 22, 2023 7:59:43 GMT 7
In my personal experience, both a complete waste of time. The only ones that were of any assistance (although for us it was how much my partner could earn while receiving carers payment) was calling the disability and carers number or the FIS Officers. The FISO through how much we could earn each before DSP/Carers would reduce, when it would cut out completely, what income was assessable by Centrelink - all in a face to face meeting so we could take notes. I'm not sure if they still do the meetings (mine was pre covid) but if I was suggesting anything beyond basic income thresholds I'd ask them. Yes, I found DES providers a waste of time too. All they did was help me create a CV, and frankly it was a pretty crappy one, so I simply updated what I already had. I started off part time and slowly increased hours until I reached a 'sweet spot' of 20 hours per week. It means my DSP became only $275 a fortnight, but it's good to be working. Test the waters slowly and make sure that you aim to do something that you like, it makes it 100x easier to ride through the rough times. Be careful to not work too many hours or earn $0 pension - in recent times I found that doing so - even for a week or two - triggered phone calls from Centrelink, and frankly it saw my desire to work a bit more when I was in a good spot disappear. |
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Post by bunyip on May 23, 2023 18:51:25 GMT 7
Yes, I found DES providers a waste of time too. All they did was help me create a CV, and frankly it was a pretty crappy one, so I simply updated what I already had.
I started off part time and slowly increased hours until I reached a 'sweet spot' of 20 hours per week. It means my DSP became only $275 a fortnight, but it's good to be working.
Test the waters slowly and make sure that you aim to do something that you like, it makes it 100x easier to ride through the rough times. Be careful to not work too many hours or earn $0 pension - in recent times I found that doing so - even for a week or two - triggered phone calls from Centrelink, and frankly it saw my desire to work a bit more when I was in a good spot disappear.
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thanks, did finding a job result in your DSP being reviewed or did they leave you alone? did you have any problems with reporting income fortnightly with centrlink stuffing things up and delaying your payments. ? yes everyone says DES is a waste of time, but l was thinking could they give me a job placement where they find me a job in a business , do they do that for you, that would be useful to me, or do you think l should avoid DES all together.
My main problem getting a job is l lack experience , l havent worked in 20 years and dont have people to give me an employment reference , l was thinking of starting off with volunteer work to get experience that could lead to a job,if l find a job under 15 hours a week will centrlink most likely leave me alone and not review my DSP< l havent been reviewed since l got the DSP in 2008
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Post by tasjo on May 24, 2023 21:22:27 GMT 7
bunyip - without being nasty about the DES providers, it really depends what you think you might want to do. If you want to work at a larger company then possibly they might be of use but while I have engaged with them for employing people its been a more difficult process than it would be just to find someone myself. The subsidies offered to employers, while appearing generous on paper, are often onerous in nature and could see people given a job simply to fulfil the requirements and then finding themselves either with reduced hours or no work at all.
DSP does allow for up to 30 hours work or study per work, but for people who havent been assessed since pre-2012 it is worth knowing that should their eligibility be reassessed, they would be deemed ineligible if they were assessed as being able to work more than 15 hours a week. So, you would assume if you were to be assessed (hypothetically) and you were working more than 15 hours, it would make it more difficult to retain your DSP. However, Centrelink does have a period of time (2 years I think) where they will 'suspend' DSP if you are returning to work, and you can go back with no reassessment, so if you did get full time work, this would also be a potential option.
DES may actually go the opposite way and try and 'push' you into more hours than you would really like to work, so that is also worth considering.
Do you have NDIS? That would potentially be another way of getting assistance... capacity building through volunteer work?
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Post by bunyip on May 27, 2023 8:26:57 GMT 7
Thanks l dont know if l am eligable for NDIS, l am independant and dont need a carer or assistance with my daily life,, for example l can drive my car go shopping, dress myself , mow the lawn and so on, does that mean l am not eligable for the NDIS?
if l look for work l dont want centrelink to know l am looking for work until l actually find of job , then of course l would tell them. If l were to join DES and get them to help me. does centrlink have to know or are they automotically told l have joined DES and looking for work, could the mere act of looking for work or joining DES trigger a re assessment of my DSP even if l havent found a job yet
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Post by tasjo on May 27, 2023 15:00:35 GMT 7
Thanks l dont know if l am eligable for NDIS, l am independant and dont need a carer or assistance with my daily life,, for example l can drive my car go shopping, dress myself , mow the lawn and so on, does that mean l am not eligable for the NDIS? if l look for work l dont want centrelink to know l am looking for work until l actually find of job , then of course l would tell them. If l were to join DES and get them to help me. does centrlink have to know or are they automotically told l have joined DES and looking for work, could the mere act of looking for work or joining DES trigger a re assessment of my DSP even if l havent found a job yet It may be worth discussing with NDIS to see if there are any programs available should you be accepted... a part of what NDIS are also now aiming to do is highlight what community programs are available to people. As far as I know looking for work wouldn't trigger a review. The only thing I could think it would effect is if you were receiving mobility allowance and needed to prove you were looking for work/studying/working. |
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Post by bunyip on May 27, 2023 18:59:45 GMT 7
how hard is it to be accepted into NDIS, l thought if you are indpendant and dont need assiatance in your daily life you are not eligable
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Post by bear on May 27, 2023 19:19:14 GMT 7
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Post by JJJ88 on May 27, 2023 20:42:38 GMT 7
Self managing NDIS funding would be the go Bunyip as most of the NDIS service providers have their snouts in the troughs. It's up to A$500,000 per year in funding with the average amount per annum being around $250,000. Would absolutley help some disabled folk get back into work. Things like respite, cleaning, specialist therapy, a carer in the workplace etc. I guess that's why they call it the National Disability Insurance Scheme, the name speaks for itself.
Cheers
J
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Post by tasjo on May 28, 2023 10:27:23 GMT 7
how hard is it to be accepted into NDIS, l thought if you are indpendant and dont need assiatance in your daily life you are not eligable It may not even be for you bunyip, but as mentioned there is now a lot more focus on highlighting what is available within the community. NDIS is available to people who's functional capacity is reduced due to their disability (including their ability to socialise, look for work, look after themselves, their home)... it's quite a bit broader than DSP. If you don't enquire you'll never know. While you might decide its not for you it's worth at least taking the first step. Some people will get a lot more funding than others, depending on the level of their disability, but I agree - self funded (if you can manage it) gives you the most choice. |
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Post by bunyip on May 29, 2023 10:10:47 GMT 7
thanks is the first step to ask my doctor if l am eligable for the NDIS, if he says l am not should l still go into the NDIS office and apply. what percentage of people on DSP are also on NDIS
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Post by tasjo on May 30, 2023 19:00:44 GMT 7
thanks is the first step to ask my doctor if l am eligable for the NDIS, if he says l am not should l still go into the NDIS office and apply. what percentage of people on DSP are also on NDIS Unless you are in Tassie the first step would be to contact NDIS... they speak to you and give you the paperwork or information to discuss with your doctor. If you are in Tassie there is a different process (they are trialling something that may be rolled out nationwide) |
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