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Post by genx on Mar 6, 2024 20:28:01 GMT 7
I've been looking into the implications of being non resident in Australia and have realised that for certain people, it is far better to maintain status as a real Australian resident. Time overseas is not the only criteria. What is more important is your links to the Australian community.
After doing some research, here are some things that contribute to residency (if you want to retain Australian residency; otherwise it's irrelevant).
1. Maintain bank accounts in Australia. Your pension should be paid into an Australian bank account
2. Continue to pay rent in Australia or keep an abode in Australia. If you maintain a place to live in Australia, this is evidence that you are maintaining residency in Australia. You can rent out a relative's spare room.
3. Do not tell Centrelink that you are leaving permanently (this should be obvious). Your departure and arrival cards should indicate your intention to reside in Australia.
4. Maintain your friends and social links in Australia. You could maintain links by joining sociable or charitable organisations, and remain a member in good standing. If you can't attend in person, you could participate in online events. A modest donation to an Australian charitable organisation could be an indicator that you are invested in Australia.
5. Any minor business activities in Australia could contribute to your residency, but this is probably the weakest of the five points.
Any other ideas? And any other people here maintained Australian residency despite living primarily overseas?
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Post by bear on Mar 6, 2024 21:44:15 GMT 7
Driver's Licence, Vehicle Ownership, Current Medicare Card, Mobile Phone Number.
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Post by Banjo on Mar 7, 2024 7:30:43 GMT 7
The only reason I would have bothered is to have remained a resident for Medicare but that ship has long sailed.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Mar 7, 2024 16:40:28 GMT 7
I was declared non-resident over the phone.
Actual trips to Australia seemed most important.
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Post by genx on Mar 7, 2024 17:02:19 GMT 7
I was declared non-resident over the phone. Actual trips to Australia seemed most important. Were you doing you tax returns? Maintained a residence in Australia? |
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Post by Denis-NFA on Mar 7, 2024 17:17:17 GMT 7
I was declared non-resident over the phone. Actual trips to Australia seemed most important. Were you doing you tax returns? Maintained a residence in Australia? No tax returns because pension only income and the residency wasn't accepted... I forget where it was at that time. But I had upset the person on the other end that's for sure and I don't even know what my status is now. I did receive paperwork to vote in the Cairns local elections for this weekend though so whether I'm actually really resident or non I just don't know...  I assigned my son to deal with them so I just delete emails from Services Australia, after a quick scan. |
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Post by bear on Mar 8, 2024 7:04:45 GMT 7
I was declared non-resident over the phone. Actual trips to Australia seemed most important. Were you doing you tax returns? Maintained a residence in Australia? ..... Out of interest, the implications mentioned in the OP; to which type of residency were you referring. Tax Residency or General Residency as described in Social Security legislation. AFAIK, they are separate beasts. Cheers 🐻 |
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Post by genx on Mar 8, 2024 8:00:45 GMT 7
genx..... Out of interest, the implications mentioned in the OP; to which type of residency were you referring. Tax Residency or General Residency as described in Social Security legislation. AFAIK, they are separate beasts. Cheers 🐻 I was thinking about social security residency, but tax residency had crossed my mind as well. |
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Post by ann on Mar 8, 2024 10:06:38 GMT 7
I was told some time back that if I kept moving around when out of Australia my domicile would still be Australia. Once I rented or bought a place overseas I would be a non resident. Being on the age pension tax isn’t an issue for me at all. I’m not sure what difference being a non resident would mean for me.
I have the caravan here and that’s my main link to Oz, Centrelink have me registered as a ‘traveller’.
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Post by genx on Mar 8, 2024 12:35:36 GMT 7
I was told some time back that if I kept moving around when out of Australia my domicile would still be Australia. Once I rented or bought a place overseas I would be a non resident. Being on the age pension tax isn’t an issue for me at all. I’m not sure what difference being a non resident would mean for me. I have the caravan here and that’s my main link to Oz, Centrelink have me registered as a ‘traveller’. I would think that normalisation of status within a third country would be more important than a rental contract overseas, for example. I have read some of the reviews available online at the AAT, and they did take what you mentioned into account, but it's a holistic view of the entire situation that is more important. For example, if you only ever had a tourist visa in another country, that would be a strong indicator that you were not truly resident there. |
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Post by bear on Mar 8, 2024 13:34:33 GMT 7
I was told some time back that if I kept moving around when out of Australia my domicile would still be Australia. Once I rented or bought a place overseas I would be a non resident. Being on the age pension tax isn’t an issue for me at all. I’m not sure what difference being a non resident would mean for me. I have the caravan here and that’s my main link to Oz, Centrelink have me registered as a ‘traveller’. I would think that normalisation of status within a third country would be more important than a rental contract overseas, for example. I have read some of the reviews available online at the AAT, and they did take what you mentioned into account, but it's a holistic view of the entire situation that is more important. For example, if you only ever had a tourist visa in another country, that would be a strong indicator that you were not truly resident there. Visas, their official purpose, and common nomenclatures are a whole other can of worms. In Thailand, visa exempt & tourist visa; definitely nothing to do with residency. An non Immigrant O-A is the 'Official Retirement' visa, whilst a non immigrant O visa can either be multiple entry, where you must leave every 90 days or stay in country and report your address to immigration every 90 days. The ME probably negates any residency 'trap', even though people may return to the same rental every time they leave, for many many years. It should be noted these visa are only visas in the first instance, then convert into yearly 'Extension or Stay' permits, year on year. Re-entry permits are available, either multiple or single for all Visas and EoS Permits mentioned above. Hardly a recommendation for being flagged for residency; but..... .....whenever countries can declare a person 'resident / non resident' based solely on being in or out of that country for more than a set number of days in any given year, to me; smacks of politicking pure & simple. It also indicates a certain degree of coercive control over its citizens. Cheers 🐻 |
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