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Post by browne on May 3, 2012 22:56:32 GMT 7
URGENT AND DISTRESSING NEWS FOR ALL AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN DISABILITY PENSION RECIPIENTS.May 4th, 2012. Sydney's Daily Telegraph reports early details of the 2012 Federal Budget. Shocking news that is sure to upset thousands of Australian DSP recipients. You will not believe your eyes at this mean spirited news. All the battles Banjo and others fought here appear to be lost. INSTEAD OF EVERY 13 WEEKS RETURNING TO AUSTRALIA, IT WILL NOW BE EVERY 6 WEEKS. (or 8 times a year). Can you afford 8 return air fares a year? www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/overseas-travellers-will-lose-welfare-payments/story-e6freuy9-1226346276355"The hit list includes more than 8000 disability support pensioners who will lose $755.50 a fortnight, but people assessed with a severe and permanent disability will be exempt." "Age pensions will not be touched with ministers deciding that "grey nomads" have paid their taxes and deserve to enjoy their travel. Many pensioners born overseas also go back to their home country." "The existing 13-week restriction on overseas travel has been judged excessive and six weeks will be set as enough time for people to be overseas and still receive welfare.". Notice the language they use to act as if people on disability support never paid any taxes, but the aged pensioners did. My heart goes out to you all. May God have mercy on the government's soul. The new restrictions start on January 1st next year so make sure you leave Australia in late December. Horrific news. I know a lot of families will be torn apart and some people may even take their own lives. All to save just $20 million dollars, which they piss up against the wall every day on ads on tv for their carbon tax.
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Post by immiadvice on May 4, 2012 5:11:30 GMT 7
This will solve the residency issue once and for all. Also it will only affect people on the DSPthat are capable of work. Those of us with no future work capacity will have unlimited portability.
I suspect FTB will still be portable for 3 years but only the maximum rate be cut after 6 weeks.
This bill will pass easily I would think. Unless the ALP are thrown out first or course.
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Post by Banjo on May 4, 2012 5:43:59 GMT 7
zzz just sent me this in a PM. Federal Budget targets single parents forcing them into workforceSINGLE parents on income assistance will be forced to work once their child is at school and will lose more than $118 a fortnight in assistance. In next week's Federal Budget, The Advertiser understands up to 100,000 households receiving the Parenting Payment will be moved on to Newstart, meaning that some will lose money and all will be subject to new conditions. Income will not be affected for partnered parents transferred to Newstart because their Parenting Payment is set at the same level as Newstart. Single parents on the Parenting Payment of $648.50 a fortnight will have payments cut to $529 from January 1. Single parents who entered the system before July 1, 2006, had been eligible for the higher allowance until their dependent children reached age 12. However, under the changes, payments will apply only until the child is eight years old, or aged six for partnered parents. It is expected the measure will save the Federal Government around $700 million over the next four years. Employment and Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten said the Government wanted to help families but the best assistance was not long-term income support, but a job. "Income support ideally should be a temporary measure - and should not be a disincentive for finding work," Mr Shorten said. He added that it was not in the best interests of children to experience "intergenerational unemployment and the poverty and lack of opportunity that flow from this". Government figures show that, as of January this year, there were more than 630,000 families on income support and for 41 per cent of these there was no working parent and no income had been reported in the previous 12 months. Families, pensioners, single parents and carers also will have their welfare payments slashed if they travel overseas for more than six weeks. People receiving Family Tax Benefit A and B and the disability support pension should not have an overseas trip subsidised by taxpayers, the Government has decided. The new rules will apply from January 1. Around 25,000 people receiving family tax benefits spend more than six weeks a year overseas. Depending on their income and number of children they could lose as much as $160 a fortnight.People receiving Family Tax Benefit A and B and the disability support pension should not have an overseas trip subsidised by taxpayers, the Government has decided.
The new rules will apply from January 1. Around 25,000 people receiving family tax benefits spend more than six weeks a year overseas. Depending on their income and number of children they could lose as much as $160 a fortnight.www.adelaidenow.com.au/federal-budget-targets-single-parents-forcing-them-into-workforce/story-e6frea6u-1226346271040 |
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Post by Banjo on May 4, 2012 6:16:09 GMT 7
Shorten is the rising star in the ALP, one of the kingmakers in the Rudd sacking, an election loss followed by a couple of terms in opposition would see him as a future PM.
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Post by Banjo on May 4, 2012 6:27:38 GMT 7
This will solve the residency issue once and for all. Also it will only affect people on the DSPthat are capable of work. Those of us with no future work capacity will have unlimited portability. I suspect FTB will still be portable for 3 years but only the maximum rate be cut after 6 weeks. This bill will pass easily I would think. Unless the ALP are thrown out first or course. Now I've thought about it, I'll confess that I suspected that DSP recipients with work capacity weren't going to get any portability at all. |
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Post by anotherdsp on May 4, 2012 6:29:54 GMT 7
OMG, JUST ABOUT HAD A HEART ATTACK!!
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Post by Banker on May 4, 2012 6:36:43 GMT 7
Shorten is the rising star in the ALP, one of the kingmakers in the Rudd sacking, an election loss followed by a couple of terms in opposition would see him as a future PM. He agrees with Julia but does NOT know what Julia said, its on utube. He would make a great PM I think NOT. |
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Post by howdo on May 4, 2012 10:24:37 GMT 7
What next, confiscate passports.
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Post by Banker on May 4, 2012 10:34:27 GMT 7
Its all about having TOTAL control over the people and DOLLARS. $$$$$$$$$$
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Post by browne on May 4, 2012 11:41:53 GMT 7
You people don't seriously trust Centerlink's ability to safely ensure you are properly defined as having no work capacity do you?
And you seriously believe you won't just be called back to Australia for another assessment at a random time in the future?
Or that future governments won't chop and change these rules as much as they have been changed in the last ten years?
Face it. No one is safe. No one.
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Post by zingzingzing on May 4, 2012 11:59:53 GMT 7
browne,
The point is the government didn't have to go this far, changing how long someone is overseas doesn't cost them that much more - we are not in a country that has Austerity measures, perhaps this budget should be called Austerity budget.
Infact, it could save them more because other benefits (such as Education Supplement) is only available for a certain period of time.
So it's quiet pathetic this attempt.
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Post by immiadvice on May 4, 2012 12:33:52 GMT 7
Its all about having TOTAL control over the people and DOLLARS. $$$$$$$$$$ That is not how I read it. I believe they want those that can work in a job. Those with no future work capacity can do what they want. Basically its the end of the DSP as we know it. |
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Post by zingzingzing on May 4, 2012 13:16:09 GMT 7
Its all about having TOTAL control over the people and DOLLARS. $$$$$$$$$$ That is not how I read it. I believe they want those that can work in a job. Those with no future work capacity can do what they want. Basically its the end of the DSP as we know it. Yeah all for a few million dollars for the budget. Try cutting their pays to 1/3 of what they got now.... |
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Post by browne on May 4, 2012 14:10:24 GMT 7
Its all about having TOTAL control over the people and DOLLARS. $$$$$$$$$$ That is not how I read it. I believe they want those that can work in a job. Those with no future work capacity can do what they want. Basically its the end of the DSP as we know it. I find it naive that you feel so safe in the knowledge they will supposedly say you have no work capacity. Very naive. Unless you're blind. Are you blind? Not in a sarcastic way am I saying this, I mean guide dog blind. Everyone else they'll find a way to say you can work. |
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Post by immiadvice on May 4, 2012 14:14:24 GMT 7
That is not how I read it. I believe they want those that can work in a job. Those with no future work capacity can do what they want. Basically its the end of the DSP as we know it. I find it naive that you feel so safe in the knowledge they will supposedly say you have no work capacity. Very naive. Unless you're blind. Are you blind? Not in a sarcastic way am I saying this, I mean guide dog blind. Everyone else they'll find a way to say you can work. Yes, I am visually impaired. Yes, I have zero work capacity based on a medical review done this January. |
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