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Post by maca84 on Sept 3, 2013 17:52:58 GMT 7
You guys are so awesome!!! Great infos. Iam thinking to apply also for UP.
Keep up the good work!
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Post by Denis-NFA on Sept 4, 2013 7:27:04 GMT 7
hi maca84, I'm currently 59 years young.... My disabilities are hearing loss with tinnitus, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and post traumatic stress disorder. Whatever the basis of your original grounds for being granted DSP make sure you know and understand the implication of the various rating criteria of your condition/s under the new impairment tables.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 12:39:50 GMT 7
One question for your guys, if they gonna reassesses my DSP in the future are they using the new tables? Cant find anything about that anywhere. Are they allowed to do this? Yes l was thinking the same thing myself, wondering if the Liberals when they win will start reassessing everyone and how l would go with those new 2011 tables.
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Post by Banjo on Sept 4, 2013 14:18:46 GMT 7
There's something like 800,000 on the DSP, the Libs are about saving money so work out what that many assessments will cost. Also where will they go? On the dole, which of course... trashes the unemployment figures. They can't find real jobs for the people on the dole now.
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Post by baranghope on Sept 4, 2013 15:26:09 GMT 7
Follow the leaders maca84, the guys who have earned UP via their GPs and specialists and JCA interview behaviour. These people were successful as much for their thoroughness and strategy as they were because of any 20 point condition.
I'm still cautious . . . with only 3 years to my OAP, but most of these successful people have a real strong social reason for wanting to live abroad say, in SE Asia. But most of them were not facing death if they were knocked down to Newstart rates.
As far as worrying about Medicare, just go to the Human Services site, and you will see what they require for returning Aussies . . . again, 2 documents proving you are a resident . . . and someone I know is getting that request just after being 3 years away, not 5.
Me: I cannot even find a GP I can manipulate.
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Post by mick on Sept 4, 2013 16:05:48 GMT 7
Exactly right Banjo, the mining boom is slowing and apparently Victoria is in recession!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 5:29:37 GMT 7
There's something like 800,000 on the DSP, the Libs are about saving money so work out what that many assessments will cost. Also where will they go? On the dole, which of course... trashes the unemployment figures. They can't find real jobs for the people on the dole now. l think Abbott said something about creating a second disability pension people whose disability might not be permanent, anyone know whats that's about?
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Post by scallywag on Sept 5, 2013 6:23:51 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 6:48:58 GMT 7
Yes a " two tier disability pension" l guess if ABbott kicks large numbers of people off the DSP onto Newstart that will increase the unemployment rate but if he instead creates a second disability pension at a lower rate and mutual obligation activites, just like Newstart with a different name and moves heaps of people onto that it wont officially increase the unemployment rate. Sound like the type of sneaky nasty thing Abbott would do, But l guess Abbott will call it " Tough love" . Probably use the millions he saves to give Gina Reinhart a Taxbreak
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Post by Banjo on Sept 5, 2013 7:06:13 GMT 7
You got home alright I see Scallywag.
The impairment tables pretty well divide us up anyway when they use terminology like severe for some and not others. The current government has raised the bar significantly and reduced the number of people going onto the pension. Whether any new regime will be satisfied with this remains to be seen.
I can see this forum doing a lot of appeals work in the future, particularly if funding cuts to organisations like Welfare Rights continue.
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Post by maca84 on Sept 5, 2013 9:10:20 GMT 7
One thing is funny, they always talking about putting people back to work but where are the bloody JOBS? What kinda industry they will create in the future? All what they doing is digging the raw material out of the ground, sell it to china and import the cheap labour goods. They constantly destroy own industries past decade and forget to build new onces.
The future doesnt look so good for Australia onces the ressources have finished. At the moment the huge cash injection of chinese people hold everything up. Ive never seen somany chinese here ever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 9:26:43 GMT 7
One thing is funny, they always talking about putting people back to work but where are the bloody JOBS? What kinda industry they will create in the future? All what they doing is digging the raw material out of the ground, sell it to china and import the cheap labour goods. They constantly destroy own industries past decade and forget to build new onces. The future doesnt look so good for Australia onces the ressources have finished. At the moment the huge cash injection of chinese people hold everything up. Ive never seen somany chinese here ever. Maybe its not about jobs its about saving money, If Liberals create a two tier disability pension, one with a lower rate of pay like newstart for people they think are well enough to look for work they will save money even if the majority cant find work . Yes as you said all our jobs have been imported overseas with manufacturing moving to ASia with cheap labor and we have lots off immigrations such as foreign students taking up a lot of the low paid casual jobs
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Post by Banjo on Sept 5, 2013 9:37:12 GMT 7
Just discussing this online, paying business to employ the disabled reduces jobs for able bodied people, who stay on the dole. They should be working on job creation policies like keeping business in Australia. Make it plain to manufacturing companies moving off shore that anything they want to import into Australia will be well taxed. How farmers can vote Liberal is beyond me, who opened the gates to primary industry imports? That OJ you had with brekky may have had "made from Australian oranges" on it but the one on the shelf next to it without the label was a lot cheaper. (The fault lies, of course, with the Aussie worker who expects a livable wage to pick them).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 9:41:50 GMT 7
Just discussing this online, paying business to employ the disabled reduces jobs for able bodied people, who stay on the dole. They should be working on job creation policies like keeping business in Australia. Make it plain to manufacturing companies moving off shore that anything they want to import into Australia will be well taxed. How farmers can vote Liberal is beyond me, who opened the gates to primary industry imports? That OJ you had with brekky may have had "made from Australian oranges" on it but the one on the shelf next to it without the label was a lot cheaper. (The fault lies, of course, with the Aussie worker who expects a livable wage to pick them). l guess Gina reinharts solution to the unemployment problem is to pay AUssie workers $2 like in Africa, but l don't think even Tony ABbott would go that far. Politicans don't understand that in the real world employers discriminate against the disabled, long term unemployed and over 50's kicking them off benefits does,nt create jobs
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Post by maca84 on Sept 5, 2013 9:54:42 GMT 7
Yes as you said all our jobs have been imported overseas with manufacturing moving to ASia with cheap labor and we have lots off immigrations such as foreign students taking up a lot of the low paid casual jobs yep the lower paid jobs go to the overseas chinese students who get taxed 30% on the first dollar after paying heaps for visa and school costs. where are the jobs for aussis than?
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