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Post by ima69r on Oct 5, 2013 22:46:31 GMT 7
I post this for my friend, who now lives in South Africa.
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what do you think of this and what can I do to get my money back or at least some of it?
Having done the right and honest thing and declared my marriage to Centre Link and answered all their questions bar giving them the value of Lynda's Townhouse (but that is being done now), I have had my fortnightly pension reduced from 755 to a horrible 224 (and fifteen cents!)
Lynda is only two years and a bit younger than myself who has just turned 69, retired about 9 years ago and is on a pension better than mine but not huge.
What ideas and comments and wording do you suggest that could give me the desired outcome of an Increase in my pension closer to the original figure?
I would appreciate a prompt reply as I only have a few days to sort this out.....28 are given but their letter took almost three weeks to reach me.
Hooroo and thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
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URGENT REQUEST FOR HELP - Due to limited reply time constraints....
Can anyone please offer My Friend (Through me) ANY Ideas ??
Thanks...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 1:30:35 GMT 7
It seems to me, the issue is that your mate & his wife's income has dropped, coz their income & assets are to high. The Only thing i can see' that can be done ... is for them to reduce their income & assets. Sell everything & spend it all fast.
maybe then' C/L will restore their payments to the original figure.
Q ... Do they live in Lynda's Townhouse or is it an investment property.
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Post by Banjo on Oct 6, 2013 7:08:08 GMT 7
It always surprises me why people as young as 69 would want to get married.
He should ask for the decision to reduce his income to be reviewed. Her personal income would almost certainly be what is effecting his pension rather than the town house, unless the rental is being taken into account. There's not much he can do if it is income, the same rules would apply in Australia.
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Post by maca84 on Oct 6, 2013 7:38:22 GMT 7
stay single while u on dsp! you even can live under the same roof with someone without losing anything. they call flat mates!
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Post by aussieinusa on Jan 8, 2014 12:39:06 GMT 7
If your partner has no money (income or assets) to contribute, there is a thing called 'Section 24' where they keep you on the Single rate even though you're a member of a couple. Some of the better CL officers will ask that you be assessed for it; other times, you have to ask for it yourself.
If your partner does have money -- whether cash income, or non-liquid assets like shares or property -- you're subject to a means test and your payment will be reduced. As far as CL are concerned, it's your partner's responsibility to provide for you, if they have the means to do so. Tough luck if you don't like crawling to your partner for some 'pocket money'; that's the rules.
CL payments are the last resort for people who have no other means of support, but if you have a partner with money, then you have another means of support... or that's their logic, anyway. (What you're supposed to do if your partner refuses to support you, maybe because they've heard too many politicians go on about how everyone has to 'pay their own way', I don't know.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 20:26:30 GMT 7
This may not be in line with some of these postings, but am also inquiring on behalf of my friend who lives in . Thailand on OAP. HIs health is failing, has a multitude of health problems and is starting to struggle to look after himself. Is saying he is just about getting to the stage where he needs a carer. He lives in Thailand but has a Filipino friend who wants to come and look after him. How would he go getting her into Thailand and what would be the best visa for him to obtain for her, if it is at all possible? Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Jan 20, 2014 22:31:53 GMT 7
This may not be in line with some of these postings, but am also inquiring on behalf of my friend who lives in . Thailand on OAP. HIs health is failing, has a multitude of health problems and is starting to struggle to look after himself. Is saying he is just about getting to the stage where he needs a carer. He lives in Thailand but has a Filipino friend who wants to come and look after him. How would he go getting her into Thailand and what would be the best visa for him to obtain for her, if it is at all possible? Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Even Australia has a Visa category for the 'personal assistants' of some folk that come to Australia. I would suggest your friend checks their Visa category for Thailand. Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 6:54:59 GMT 7
thanks for the advice, will pass it on.
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Post by Banjo on Jan 21, 2014 7:50:19 GMT 7
He would have no problem getting her into Thailand on a tourist visa, or a work permit if she can get a job. The other long stay visas would require proof or income and/or money in a Thai bank.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 18:37:01 GMT 7
Thanks Banjo, I would assume her being his carer would not be enough. I know he has to show a wage and pay paye tax. If they checked his income, they would laugh at him.
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Post by chris on Jan 31, 2014 14:12:02 GMT 7
Thanks Banjo, I would assume her being his carer would not be enough. I know he has to show a wage and pay paye tax. If they checked his income, they would laugh at him. Asians going to other Asian countries do not require a Visa (given on arrival, same as what we might get) The only caveat there is they will ask for proof of financial support. She would need to be carry some cash, maybe $500 US.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 14:44:22 GMT 7
Thanks Banjo, will pass that on. Any news on how long they are predicting the inquiry into DSP and Newstart will take? I would think it would be 6 to 12 months? Pity they are not doing the same into MP's perks.
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Post by ozozoz on Feb 7, 2014 3:12:45 GMT 7
If your partner has no money (income or assets) to contribute, there is a thing called 'Section 24' where they keep you on the Single rate even though you're a member of a couple. This kind of information is Golden. I have a de facto partner (not actually married) and am getting ready to submit a partner visa since they are also a carer for me. For the first 2 years in Australia, I understand the partner will not be eligible for Centrelink payments, except if circumstances change AFTER they arrive to OZ, there may be an option for special benefit. Oct 5, 2013 6:38pm maca84 said: stay single while u on dsp! you even can live under the same roof with someone without losing anything. they call flat mates! My partner in question doesn't speak English and comes from a third world country, they have no assets or income. If we live under the same roof, can my partner still be considered my "flat mate" even though I was the sponsor for the partner visa? I suppose both of us might survive if I am assessed on the single rate under section 24 and my partner has special benefit and we share the same living space. I just don't see how my partner would be able to qualify for a carer payment within the first 2 years of arriving on a partner visa. The $700 fn payment for DSP doesn't seem to be enough to live on, which is why I'm asking these questions. Thanks for the input and look forward to reading the answers!
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Post by immiadvice on Feb 7, 2014 6:20:03 GMT 7
If you have sponsored your partner and then "break up" for centrelink purposes your partner runs the risk of having her visa canceled if she is on the provisional visa. I would think you would also be subject to strict survellience to be caught out rorting the system. This could place your citizenship in jeapordy as well as potentially face prison time.
As for section 24. You will not be able to claim it if your partner is receiving any income or benefit. I received my DSP at the single rate under section 24 while my ex partner waited on her centrelink claim but I know of others who have failed.
Given your limited ties to Australia make sure you put a lot of effort into your partners visa application. I hear they're not as easy to get under the Abbott régime.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 14:17:53 GMT 7
Hi Banjo, A friend of mine has a bit of a problem, been on dsp for 15 years and is classified as 'grandfather status' if you know what that means, he has about 30 points, but is only 59 years of age. He wants to live over here and is threatening to get married! Which I am trying to counsel him out of. He has a gf who had a car accident when she went with him to Aussie (other vehicle in the wrong) so she has lodged 3rd party claim and will get a bit of money, broken collarbone etc, spine injuries. I have suggested to him that on face value he would have a good chance of getting portability with his history? Could not think of anyone more qualfied than you to give him a bit of advice, more so than me - but I have pleaded with him to wait on the marriage thing as he has a long time to go, if he has to go back and live in Oz which he does not want to do. He is on the 6 week merry go round like me at the moment. Any assistance appreciated.
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