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Post by tirolr on Aug 8, 2014 8:37:23 GMT 7
Although I have been on OAP since May this year, I am still daily looking in on this site to see if I can add any further suggestions.. Yes and I am still involved with overseas aid (using the grey matter)and still in Samoa, travelling back and forth to Australia every six months to see my Kids, Grandkids and for general medical checkup & medications. The climate is magic, takes care of the arthritis. Tirolr  |
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Post by raff on Aug 8, 2014 11:40:56 GMT 7
A bit of an update on my case. Turns out my doctor was given my relevant paperwork last year. According to the JCA in 2010 I have 20 points under two categories and ten in a third. Do you think this would make an unlimite3d portability claim cut and dry???
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Post by seth on Aug 8, 2014 17:13:46 GMT 7
man ... talk about getting in a fluster & over-thinking the subject. 4 weeks potability each year & now your all talking about getting jobs in 3erd world country's.
Well good luck with your jobs guys. ill be enjoying my 8 week portability ....
Hmm ... were should i go ... 4 weeks portability each year they tell me.
That's fine with me .... if it's a straight 4 weeks each calender year ..... Then ill be spending 4 weeks in December 2014 & 4 weeks in January 2015 kicking back watching the new year come in as i drink a Mai Tai on the beach in the south pacific or in Asia while i count down the new year. ...
4 weeks portability each year ..... (( don't you mean 8 weeks portability every 2 years. ))
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Post by seth on Aug 8, 2014 17:30:49 GMT 7
Option 2.
If C/L claim that it's 4 weeks each year .. & not in the calender year, ... but is in the / a 52 week cycle . & the 52 weeks cycle starts start from the first day you leave Australia.
( example 4 weeks is based on a 52 week cycle so if you leave on jan 01 then you can not do another 4 weeks until jan 01 the next year. ) ... that's fine too.
Ill still spend my new year knocking back a mie tie or two waiting for the new year to count down. ... 8 weeks on a beach is fine with me. give or take a few days.
You see ... if the 4 week portability is based on 52 week cycle. & the 52 week cycle start from the day you leave Australia, then that's fine.
ill go to the nearist country for a short trip, ..... Say Bali or N.Z for the week end or a week sometime in the beginning of the year say January ..... thus starting the 52 week cycle.
4 weeks portability in each 52 week cycle, & iv used 1 week of it in January on a beach in Bali or maybe the ski fields in N.Z
thus leaving me 3 weeks portability for the remaining 51 weeks.
Ill take that remaining 3 weeks & use it at the end of the year in December ...
So December 2014 ill have 3 weeks on a beach drinking mie ties waiting for the new year to come in ... 5 ... 4... 3... 2.... 1 happy new year.
& oh look, its 2015 now & ill take my fresh 4 weeks portability back to back .... thus allowing me to spend 7 weeks & 5 days give or take a few, kicking back on a beach in the south pacific or SE Asia.
You can all keep your part time jobs.
mai tie anybody.
4 weeks a year ... 8 weeks every two, ... taken over new years on a beach in paradise.
How is this a bad plan?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 21:05:37 GMT 7
The plans fine but UP it ain't! 'N' 3,6,9 or 12 months coupla daze p/w volunteerin' for someone with some work capacity'll trump your 8 weeks every time 'n' I'd be reckonin' it would be the next best thing if you didn't qualify for UP. Cheers bear.  |
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Post by Denis-NFA on Aug 9, 2014 6:11:18 GMT 7
A bit of an update on my case. Turns out my doctor was given my relevant paperwork last year. According to the JCA in 2010 I have 20 points under two categories and ten in a third. Do you think this would make an unlimite3d portability claim cut and dry??? Hi raffIt's a bit hard to say given the change to the Disability Assessment Tables. But given that you gained such points in 2010 you would have to think that counts for something and certainly do apply for UP. I was initially assessed in 2010 but in late 2012 I undertook a series of re-assessments with my GP and various other health providers to ensure my assessments were completely up to date prior to applying for UP in early 2013. The other factor you need to consider in relation to the Assessment Tables is that the UP JCA will be looking to see that you have no future work capacity and that your disabilities will last for at least 5 years or more. There are lots of resources on this forum and generally familiarize yourself with the relevant Social Security Guide section AND the relevant Impairment Table information for your disabilities. Banjo can point you in the direction of further information as required. All the best. |
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Post by Banjo on Aug 9, 2014 8:05:58 GMT 7
Loopholes would be great if you think that Centrelink works on a level playing field.
This forum was set up over a loophole that allowed people to return to Australia every 13 weeks, check in the same day and fly out again.
There was nothing in the legislation preventing this but the resulting mayhem saw many of us cut off the DSP, some while still outside the country and relying on future payments to return to Australia.
We were vindicated in the SSAT/AAT but often after many months of struggling without a pension or in some cases forced onto NewStart while waiting for the appeal.
Being proved right AFTER the event was certainly satisfying but the government then securely plugged the loophole with the 4 week rule.
All it takes is one Centrelink officer with a hangover noting that you have not returned after 4 weeks, reading no further, and pushing the button on you.
What are you going to do, sue them 4 months down the track because you were right?
Let me know how that goes....
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Post by seth on Aug 10, 2014 10:53:19 GMT 7
Loopholes would be great if you think that Centrelink works on a level playing field. This forum was set up over a loophole that allowed people to return to Australia every 13 weeks, check in the same day and fly out again. There was nothing in the legislation preventing this but the resulting mayhem saw many of us cut off the DSP, some while still outside the country and relying on future payments to return to Australia. We were vindicated in the SSAT/AAT but often after many months of struggling without a pension or in some cases forced onto NewStart while waiting for the appeal. Being proved right AFTER the event was certainly satisfying but the government then securely plugged the loophole with the 4 week rule. All it takes is one Centrelink officer with a hangover noting that you have not returned after 4 weeks, reading no further, and pushing the button on you. What are you going to do, sue them 4 months down the track because you were right? Let me know how that goes.... I agree ... looking for loopholes is a waste of time .... time that would be better put to use by getting ones medical records upto date. |
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Post by hypoman on Aug 19, 2014 8:28:20 GMT 7
man ... talk about getting in a fluster & over-thinking the subject. 4 weeks potability each year & now your all talking about getting jobs in 3erd world country's. Well good luck with your jobs guys. ill be enjoying my 8 week portability .... Hmm ... were should i go ... 4 weeks portability each year they tell me. That's fine with me .... if it's a straight 4 weeks each calender year ..... Then ill be spending 4 weeks in December 2014 & 4 weeks in January 2015 kicking back watching the new year come in as i drink a Mai Tai on the beach in the south pacific or in Asia while i count down the new year. ... 4 weeks portability each year ..... (( don't you mean 8 weeks portability every 2 years. ))I for one have my wife and kids abroad, so wish to spend as much time with them as possible. If it comes to it, I would much prefer working overseas (if I'm capable and can find the right neiche). I could be with my loved ones and enjoying a cold san mig at the end of EACH day, while your stuck in aus in the winter dreaming about skifields and mai-tai's. I think its a viable option for some on DSP to forget australia altogether (if possible) and if they have assettts sell up and get out. theres good investments to be made in Asia and if your careful you could invest here and survive on your investments that would equal the DSP (but without the airfares). If I could find a way to do this I would, as my sytuation is complex. I have assetts in Australia yet family abroad. I suffer from a mental illness thats (somewhat) under control with the help of a good family, local doctors, good climate and a stricct regeme of good food. something I dont have in Australia. If Im forced to stay in Australia for 11mths a year I may be a danger to myself or society and would not be able to support my family abroad, I may even end up in jail if things got real bad. so finding a job abroad would be the better optionin my case. but differemnt people overseas on DSP have different situations, so the govt should be taking this into consideration, instead of painting us all with the same brush. just my opinion anyway... |
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