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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 8:36:20 GMT 7
I note that it does not specifically state it has to be in a PI account, here it has to be in a Thai bank and is a lot more, 800,000B @25b to the AUD at the moment for a single guy, for some reason it's half that if your married, or income to balance it out (65,000 for single, 40,000 for married). Savings bank interest here is very low but it goes into your account, also you can use the money as long as it's back when the visa renewal time comes up, every 12 months. I will use the combination of my pension plus money in the Bank to add up to 800,000 Baht I will get the Australia Embassy to certify a letter stating as to how much pension i get a month I will use this method next July As i got my free 1 year visa Extension at Mae Sai There are so many things to learn as you go from your first Thailand Retirement visa
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Post by Banjo on Aug 15, 2016 10:38:08 GMT 7
The embassy will be at the Chiang Mai consulate this Friday, they appear to come up every two months now. They're using Le Meridien Hotel on Chang Klang Road. You could always get married Bedders, it would only cost you half then. You're just about old enough to take the plunge....
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Post by nomadic on Aug 16, 2016 1:57:15 GMT 7
I go to Laos for mine which is 24 hours and you need a letter from C/L on how much your pension is and any other bank balances. Far far easier than doing it in Oz where they ask for medicals and takes two weeks. I am also old enough to take the plunge but wise enough not to. When I wanted a girl i couldn't find one and now i have millions chasing me and not vaguely interested. Funny how things turn out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 6:46:51 GMT 7
bedwin & nomadic Would I be right in thinking your Mae sai and Laos retirement visa extensions were done there because you hadn't yet got sufficient in Thai bank A/C's? Would you both be willing to share your experiences of the many things we have to learn as we go from our first Thailand Retirement visa. My big 65 comes in eleven months. Unfortunately I was born 27 days to late so have to do an extra 6 months sentence. Have got my exit strategy, visa application and in Thailand extension sorted in my head but if my thoughts are correct, a short holiday every year to keep my cash in an Ozzie bank a/c could be well worthwhile whilst opening Thai a/c just for pension payments. Cheers blokes (in this pc correct world "fellahs" almost seems incorrect. bear No with my First Visa supplies from the Thai Embassy in Canberra You are able to go over the Mae Sai border not sure on other Borders with a multibale Entry Visa You have to do this before the issue date on your Visa I was given a Single 1 year Visa ExtensionYou only get the one go so i have heard I will get my Visa Extension in Chiang Mai Next year Dont ask me why but this one year extra is unusual After All this Is Thailand
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Post by Banjo on Aug 16, 2016 7:49:39 GMT 7
I go to Laos for mine which is 24 hours and you need a letter from C/L on how much your pension is and any other bank balances. Far far easier than doing it in Oz where they ask for medicals and takes two weeks. I am also old enough to take the plunge but wise enough not to. When I wanted a girl i couldn't find one and now i have millions chasing me and not vaguely interested. Funny how things turn out. What you need from the Australian Embassy is the equivalent of a statuary declaration saying what your income is, they actually supply no proof of income, they just witness your declaration. You then present Thai immigration with proof of your Thailand account bank balance. www.thaiembassy.com/retire/retire.php
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Post by nomadic on Aug 16, 2016 15:11:55 GMT 7
Hi bear, my experience is. I have a Swedish friend who has been going to Savanakhet in Laos for many years and put me onto it three years ago and since then has been far easier than getting it in Oz as i did for 15 years. You go in one day and pick it up the next. I had a letter from C/L showing I am on a pension but from embassy would be better though as they did ask for it but when I didn't have it C/L one was fine. Then your total bank accounts both in Oz and my Thai account plus what pension you get in the next 12 months must be 800,000 baht in total. Then you can either get one of two visa's. 1. a year retirement visa where you have to go to an immigration office in Thailand every three months. 2. A multi entry retirement visa where you have to leave the country every 3 months. I have the latter so it forces me to travel and if you get the first one and then want to leave you must get re entry authority or something which sounded like a hassle to me. So if you are happy to stay a whole year go for number 1. If you want to leave every 3 months then no 2. You cannot get number two and then decide not to leave if you later on don't feel like it. But with no 1 you can leave but just have to pay every time you do for the re entry. The multi entry costs a little bit more but neither are that much. Can't remember exactly but I think about A$200.00. Lastly they told me that before I went there the first time I must have had a tourist visa stay prior which i'd just finished but only three years ago before the first one ever. Hope that is clear but if not fire away with any questions. Also you don't have to be 65 to get the visa as my friend was only 57 when he got his first one. I think 55 is old enough. You can go over any border by any means . As long as you leave the country to any other one. Can fly back to Oz if you are home sick even. And if you leave the country and come back a day or so before your visa ends you get another three months making it a total of 15 overall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 16:26:02 GMT 7
G'day bedwin & nomadic. Thanks for your replies, all clear and understood.
Until a week ago I was prepared to get a 1-Year Non-Immigrant 90 day Multiple Entry Visa, as visa sites say is a pre requisite to a Retirement Visa, then I found this.
Royal Thai Consulate General Sydney seems to be offering retirement visas straight up for $225.00. Personal Information, Medical, Police Check and Banking Info forms are required. retirement-visa-application-o-a.pdf (218.52 KB)
Cheers bear
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 19:44:35 GMT 7
Upon reflection on the form in my previous post perhaps the application is for a 1 year non immigrant 90 day multiple entry "retirement" visa though ambiguity makes me doubt my ability to comprehend so I guess I'll just have to ring the Consulate to confirm whether you must leave every 90 days, just report as stated below or is that what's at the Immigration Officers discretion. I'll let you all know the result. Cheers bear
www.thaiconsulatesydney.org/Home/visa Passport: Australian. Visa Type: Retirement
OVERVIEW Eligibility • Must be 50 years of age and above on the date of submitting an application; • Must not be a person prohibited from entering Thailand; • Must not have criminal record in Thailand or in the country of his/her nationality or the country of his/her residence; • Must have no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No. 14 (B.E. 2535) i.e. Leprosy, Tuberculosis (T.B.), Elephantiasis, drug addiction, alcoholism and third step of Syphilis; • Must have the nationality of or permanent residence in the country where his/her application is submitted; and • Must not seek employment in Thailand.
Documents required •Documents required are 3 sets [ONE ORIGINAL SETand 2 PHOTOCOPY SETS] •All sets must be BINDED and certified by Justice of the Peace (JP). Please note that application ‘FORM A’ must be on the first page of each set. • A passport with validity not less than 18 months
A set of original documents consisting of the following: • A completed and signed visa application FORM A with one photo (3.5x4.5 cm.) taken within last 6 months without wearing glasses or headgear (photocopy not accepted) attached to the application form; • A copy of passport personal detail page • A completed Personal Data Form; • A LETTER OF BALANCE from a bank or financial institution, in Australia or Thailand, showing amount of no less than 800,000 Baht; • A police name check certificate issued no longer than 3 months prior to submitting the application; • A medical certificate indicating that the applicant has no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (B.E. 2535) issued no longer than 3 months prior to submitting the application;
In case the applicant wishes to have his/her spouse who does not qualify for a retirement visa stay in Thailand with the applicant, their marriage certificate shall also be produced as evidence (the spouse will be considered for a non-immigrant visa category "O"). Important note: 1. When you have prepared all the original documents as required above, you must then make 2 copies of each document. (Photos and signatures must not be photocopied) 2. After you have made copies of all the documents, you must separate the documents into 3 sets. Within these sets, arrange the documents in the order given above. All together you will have 1 set of the original documents and 2 sets of copies of the original documents. 3. All documents sets must be’ certified as true copy’ by the Justice of the Peace (JP).
Visa application processing fee The visa application processing fee is AUD$ 225
Validity of visa The validity of visa is 12 months with multiple entries. Validity of stay Upon arrival, you will be allowed to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 12 months. However, the period of stay granted is at the discretion of the immigration officer. Extension of stay • Extension of stay can be requested at the Office of Immigration Bureau located on Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn Road, Bangkok 10120. Tel.: (66 2) 287 3101-10 • At the end of the 12 months stay, if you wish to extend your stay, you can submit a request for the extended period of stay at the Immigration Bureau along with evidence of money transfer, or a deposit account in Thailand, or an income statement; proving that you have the amount of no less than 800,000 Baht, or an income statement with a deposit account that adds up to no less than 800,000 Baht a year. • If your spouse wishes to extend his/her stay as well, a marriage certificate has to be produced. • The extension of stay and change of certain types of visa is at the discretion of the Immigration Officer.
Recommendations for foreigners while staying in Thailand • When completing the stay of 90 days in Thailand, the foreigner shall report to the immigration officer in his/her residential area, or report to the police station in his/her residence area every 90 days.
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Post by nomadic on Aug 16, 2016 20:10:02 GMT 7
Further to my post about going to Laos. I should have said that I believe you can also get retirement visa'a at any immigration office in Thailand and I have met those that get lawyers to do it for them 100%. They say that you obviously have to pay more for the service but means no long days waiting in ques at the immigration offices as I see every time I have been to Chiang Mai over the years although the smaller towns are quieter so I am told. I have spoken to some in Chiang mai who have spent the whole day waiting in the office. So various ways but never been asked or heard of anybody else being asked for medicals or police checks other than in Australian consulates. I think a few ex pats would fail on the alcoholism alone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 5:54:46 GMT 7
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Post by surveyor68 on Aug 17, 2016 9:47:15 GMT 7
My personal experience of living in Thailand (25 years in Phuket) leads me to the following conclusions: Never trust a Thai lawyer! Never trust a Thai Police or Military man! Do your own paperwork and front up to the Immigration Department yourself. You will find that the experience will teach you a lot about patience and how to smile in the face of obvious insincerity. You weren't going to be doing anything else were you? You are retired after all. If you arrive in Thailand with a Tourist visa, a Non Immigrant O or a Non Immigrant B visa, these can be changed to a retirement or Marriage visa by visiting your local Immigration Bureau. You will be given a one month extension of stay and told to report back in 30 days where you will be given a further 30 days extension. On your third visit, you will be given a 9 month extension of stay. Further extensions of stay will be for a period of 12 months.This is an extension of stay on your original visa. It is not a new visa. In order to get the extension of stay, you will have to provide all the documents and details usually required for a visa application in Australia, plus you will need to take any other originals that they request but are not necessarily "required". It depends on the Immigration Officer. Do NOT offer a bribe or inducement or you will be locked into that every time you have to face them again. Once you have your extension of stay, you will then be required to make a 90 day report to Immigration until you apply for your next extension of stay. If you leave the country, you will need to apply for a single or multiple re-entry visa, prior to your departure. Failure to do this will send you straight back to step one and start again. I personally go to Savannakhet and get a 12 month vis based upon marriage, thus negating the requirement for THB400,000 (in case of marriage or THB 800,000 without). I would not trust that much money in any Thai institution. I retain my Australian bank accounts as well small amounts in my Thai accounts. Hope this helps someone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 11:15:04 GMT 7
Once you are here it is easy to get locked into what you have to do Everyone has their own way of reporting Then with there Visa Extension I can only vouch for my experiences I have learned a lot over the last 6 months What not to do and what to do!
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Post by Banjo on Aug 17, 2016 11:43:43 GMT 7
I'm still messing it up after 3 years.....
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Post by bangalorebiker on Aug 22, 2016 15:55:14 GMT 7
HELP iam going Fxing crazy here, i got a letter from our mates at Centrelink today it was posted 27 July and today is 22 august well it had the papers inside the letter for transferring to OAP from DSP and the letter said the forms must be returned by 27th august, great now the bloody impossible, i got to get these papers returned to ozzi in 5 bloody days ? yeah ducks crap golden eggs too, well i wread a bit more n it says i can do it all online if i have a online centrelink account,,, well i uster have so i dug around spent 3 hours trying to find the log in password etc then buggar me gently i found the bloody password where i had hidden it in code years ago, wonders never cease i even managed to work out what i had written all jibberish wording me being paranoid n all thinking some one might hack into my wonderious centrelink account and pinch me name n details...... more luck them, anyhow so mugginess here logs into my old centrelink account and wonders never cease me thinks i am a clever boy again until i get told i gotta get a mygov account so bright spark here hearty agrees so i do there bidding then the trouble starts i manage to get a mygov account set up all nice n cozy then the shite hits the fan i get the run around from post to pillar, i try to get to do my DSP to OAP claim to fill out on line like the gods at centrelink keep telling me i can do but frigging impossible it is easier to win lotto than to get satisfaction from centrelink online, i get the bloody run around from centrelink to mygov back to centrelink page last 2 bloody hair pulling hours no wonder i am now bald i have pulled my hair out can any of you out there assist a younger bloke like me into how the hell can i claim my OAP from DSP, please help i am just about ready to loose the plot and kick me dog in the cods, thanks
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Post by Banjo on Aug 22, 2016 16:11:17 GMT 7
Ring up International Services banga
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