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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 6:33:43 GMT 7
bear isn't that why they have the JCA override the doctors? I thought the JCA were through the job agencies not centrelink?? As far as I know JCA's are Allied Health Professionals and Centrelink employees, maybe I'm wrong! One of the biggest problems though, is the shoe generally doesn't fit! Eg. Sports Therapists assessing people with Mental Illness or other such nonsense. Cheers bear
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Post by nomadic on Oct 21, 2018 7:11:40 GMT 7
of the 2 i had one was a clink employee and the other an occupational therapist but was now many years ago. both said i was unemployable. lucky me.
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Post by mspurple on Oct 21, 2018 8:56:14 GMT 7
When my son had his JCA it was from some one who said she was not an actual centrelink employee, from memory she was a psychologist or psychiatrist who said she did contract work for centrelink. I suppose it makes no difference where they come from really, unless they have the same or higher qualifications as the Dr's and specialists they are overriding......even then I fail to see how they can make a correct and full assessment of you and your abilities in a 45 minute consultation.
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Post by kimmy on Oct 21, 2018 9:23:39 GMT 7
I too fail to see how they can override the ongoing monitoring and medical assessments from one’s GP. This undermines the ability and competence of the GP. I don’t see why an actual experienced employee can be used to make the assessment solely based on a medical report from a GP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 9:47:53 GMT 7
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Post by blahblahblah on Oct 21, 2018 11:14:22 GMT 7
tasjo I've been wracking my brain and had a bit of a look, but can't find it! I'm almost sure I've seen somewhere in the legislation/guidelines that Centrelink CAN'T override your doctors recommendations. Any thoughts? Cheers bear There was an old post back in the day that talked about this. It also happens to be compulsory reading for anybody starting an appeal. dspoverseas.proboards.com/post/9282
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Post by kimmy on Oct 21, 2018 11:20:23 GMT 7
Blah blah blah....Thanks for providing that link. Very interesting reading and valid, especially helpful for those needing reassurance when having to deal with complex matters relating to appeals. Cheers
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Post by tasjo on Oct 21, 2018 13:50:34 GMT 7
My first JCA was when I was registered as a voluntary participant with a DES provider... At the time to get any support from them I needed to be assessed at less than 30 hrs a week. At that time I was working approx 10 hrs a week and the assessment was done by a registered nurse. It didn't involve using the impairment tables and gave what I thought was a fairly accurate 8-14 hrs capacity. Which was ok until I applied for DSP because the automatic assumption if you have had a jca within a period of time (either 1 or 2 yrs) is that 'with support' your capacity will increase. My problem was that my condition had deteriorated and I had acquired further impairments. My DSP jca was at Centrelink and due to having mental and physical impairments was done by a psychologist. It was done based on her (lack of) understanding of my conditions and missing information that at the time I didn't know was missing. Again, I had an apparent capacity of 8-14 hrs, increasing 'with support' to 15-22 within 2 yrs. My mental health impairment was not considered appropriately diagnosed, so I ended up with 15 points, overriding what my GP and specialists had indicated (and my total incapacity by that time). Because I didn't get 20 points, I didn't see anyone medical from that point. My DSP was eventually granted just prior to a full AAT level 2 hearing, I believe I could have got it at AAT 1 had I understood more of the process.
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