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Post by Banjo on Jun 21, 2012 15:54:31 GMT 7
You make some good points here, back in the day there were a lot of genuine options to being on the Invalid Pension. As jobs poured out of the country and technology took over a lot of others... I once worked in a sawmill where the production output of a former workforce of 300 was doubled by 60 men and some very smart machines that never wanted holidays or called in sick... it was easier to push a lot of people off the dole, where there were never going to be enough jobs for them and retire them early on the DSP.
Now they want to change it back... history is not a required subject for politicians, they say that they will put nearly a million people back to work but then someone a bit smarter will say... hang on we still haven't got the jobs.
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 21, 2012 16:12:21 GMT 7
Now they want to change it back... history is not a required subject for politicians, they say that they will put nearly a million people back to work but then someone a bit smarter will say... hang on we still haven't got the jobs. Lol, if only pollies were smart enough to listen to the person who says, there isn't enough jobs. Hire the able bodied first, and then lets look at the situation again, and IF there are some jobs left over, we might try to retrain some sick people.
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Post by scuzzy on Jun 21, 2012 19:08:31 GMT 7
I think the Government is planning on getting us all off DSP and Newstart and putting us to work for Gina Reinhardt and Clive Palmer. They'll call it something like 'Compulsory Enforced Participation'. And to make sure we don't do a runner they'll erect a barbed wire fence around the mine, and hang a wrought iron sign over the locked gate that reads 'Arbeit Macht Frei'. Those of us who it turns out really were too sick to work after all will be taken off to 'the showers'. Apparently they're also going to build some huge ovens out there for some reason. Maybe they're planning on feeding us all pizza every night...
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Post by Banjo on Jun 21, 2012 19:41:00 GMT 7
Gina look as though she likes a pizza. Given the option of working for her or courting her I'd have the boots and overalls on in a flash.
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 21, 2012 20:06:42 GMT 7
Actually Gina prefers to import cheap workers from overseas. She had a winge about not being allowed to a year or two ago. She got permission for some in the end.
Now she is making a bid for more power, so that she can do whatever she wants. Including continuing to eat too much pizza.
It was hilarious to watch Wayne Swan trembling with fear at his press conference about her recently. He really is shitting himself. HE complained it will be the end of democracy in Australia, if SHE gains control of Fairfax press.
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Post by Banjo on Jun 21, 2012 20:36:09 GMT 7
I don't think that Fairfax is all that far to the left now. The Age and The SMH are decent newspapers but I'd hardly call them Socialist. I mean, some one has to cater for the trendy small L liberals dollar.
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Post by rowdy on Jun 21, 2012 21:57:56 GMT 7
I don't think that Fairfax is all that far to the left now. The Age and The SMH are decent newspapers but I'd hardly call them Socialist. I mean, some one has to cater for the trendy small L liberals dollar. How long until it will be the Sydney Mining Herald
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Post by scuzzy on Jun 22, 2012 7:15:24 GMT 7
I don't think that Fairfax is all that far to the left now. The Age and The SMH are decent newspapers but I'd hardly call them Socialist. I mean, some one has to cater for the trendy small L liberals dollar. How long until it will be the Sydney Mining HeraldGood one Rowdy! Very creative. The best the media could come up with over the past couple of days was 'The Mining Gazzette' (pretty lame). I'm gonna steal your 'Sydney Mining Herald' line and tell everyone I came up with it.
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 22, 2012 7:25:34 GMT 7
Good one Rowdy! Very creative. The best the media could come up with over the past couple of days was 'The Mining Gazzette' (pretty lame). I'm gonna steal your 'Sydney Mining Herald' line and tell everyone I came up with it. Lol Scuzzy. Isn't that what Jooliar is doing, stealing all of Howard's policies and telling everyone she came up with them?
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 22, 2012 7:28:53 GMT 7
I can't find the post which showed the Centrelink conversation with parliamentary people, discussing turning doctors against us, and onto their sides.
I really want to write some articles about this and start promoting it to be public knowledge. Can anyone help me?
Thanks.
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Post by scuzzy on Jun 22, 2012 9:54:18 GMT 7
Good one Rowdy! Very creative. The best the media could come up with over the past couple of days was 'The Mining Gazzette' (pretty lame). I'm gonna steal your 'Sydney Mining Herald' line and tell everyone I came up with it. Lol Scuzzy. Isn't that what Jooliar is doing, stealing all of Howard's policies and telling everyone she came up with them? I think she's now even more 'John Howard' than even John Howard was....
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Post by Banjo on Jun 22, 2012 9:57:12 GMT 7
This is the problem, the current government sat opposite little Johnny for so long, watching him tell lies with a smile on his face, that they think this is standard government procedure.
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Post by scuzzy on Jun 22, 2012 10:27:30 GMT 7
I don't know if many of you have heard but in NSW the State Liberal Government is dismantling Workcover (workers compensation). All the cutbacks and restrictions they've made in the past couple of days are retro-active (just like the DSP changes, meaning what they change now affects people who are already on the system).
What it means is that now in NSW, most people who are injured at work will only be supported by workers compensation for a short period of time, and some not at all. You may have seen yesterday that the Fire Dept protested by parking fire trucks in front of State Parliament House in Sydney and doused it with their hoses for a while (good on 'em!).
But what this means is that now all of those people who have been injured at work and can no longer work now have to fend for themselves. Now most people will say, "Yeah, but they can just go on DSP, right?" I think we all know the answer to that, don't we people?!
Not unless they're a disembodied head floating in a jar of electrolyte fluid with electrodes hooked up to their forehead keeping them alive.
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Post by raff on Jun 22, 2012 12:23:37 GMT 7
If there is one thing you do not want to do it is piss off those who provide emergency services...
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 22, 2012 13:57:35 GMT 7
I don't know if many of you have heard but in NSW the State Liberal Government is dismantling Workcover (workers compensation). All the cutbacks and restrictions they've made in the past couple of days are retro-active (just like the DSP changes, meaning what they change now affects people who are already on the system). What it means is that now in NSW, most people who are injured at work will only be supported by workers compensation for a short period of time, and some not at all. You may have seen yesterday that the Fire Dept protested by parking fire trucks in front of State Parliament House in Sydney and doused it with their hoses for a while (good on 'em!). But what this means is that now all of those people who have been injured at work and can no longer work now have to fend for themselves. Now most people will say, "Yeah, but they can just go on DSP, right?" I think we all know the answer to that, don't we people?! Not unless they're a disembodied head floating in a jar of electrolyte fluid with electrodes hooked up to their forehead keeping them alive. That's what makes this welfare stuff even worse, no dole for under 22 year old's, DSP only for those in a coma, and sickness benefits for a period of 6 weeks, and only if your employer is going to keep your job open for you. Now no compo, and no help from the unions, for fair treatment on your way out. Maybe Craig Thompson tried to bankrupt that union fund deliberately, so the health workers would get no compo when they get sick, and some people escape the carnage that is occuring in Australia.
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