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Post by spaceyone on May 31, 2011 10:29:24 GMT 7
Hi Zorro. Welcome. Six weeks to process a DSP application is the guideline C/L have to follow, to come to an original decision. However, it can vary on many things. How thoroughly you prepare you case, and how determined they are to stop you. Pick up a DSP pack at your nearest Centrelink. Make a double booking with your GP, one to bring him up to date, and one for him to fill out the form. Ask him to print out all of your test records, and other specialist information, for you to lodge with the forms. You are given two forms, called Treating Doctors Reports, to use when applying. Have the second one filled out by some kind of specialist. Again, gather any additional information they can print out about your case. There is another part of the form which covers the whole of your personal life. And another which covers Income and Assets. Once you declare the condo overseas to them, they will probably become interested in your residency plans. You will have to be careful with all of that. Once you lodge the forms with Centrelink, you will have a JCA (Job Capacity Interview) booked for you. Take your medical information along with you to this, to refer to. We all focus on trying to prove our illness to this person. However, your ability to work is meant to be the main focus of their assessment. Most aren't well qualified medically anyway. Address the ways your condition affects your ability to hold down a job. They will try to identify 'barriers' to you working, and ways to fix same. (Not that they follow up with it anyway.) If they look like they don't believe you, ask to be referred by them for tests. They can do it and have to pay for it. Start asking them to prove that you are not sick. If you have an easy case to prove, and a JCA who is not a sadistic moron, you might be recommended for DSP within 2-3 weeks. Payments would commence shortly after. Lodge an FOI request form, requesting the JCA report, once it has been lodged with Centrelink. I forgot how long they have to submit it, but worth finding out, maybe 10 - 14 days. The decision regarding DSP is then made by Centrelink, sometime after receiving the JCA report. They will advise you by mail. If they have rejected your application, you then lodge your first appeal, by phone. The appeal process can take many many months. Again, if all goes smoothly, you can have it within weeks. Residency and your future plans for the condo will come heavily into play, due to these laws just coming into affect. If you get the run around, we will be hearing from you on the board over the next several months.
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Post by Banjo on May 31, 2011 15:11:19 GMT 7
Good work spaceygirl.
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Post by Banker on May 31, 2011 19:40:53 GMT 7
Hi Zorro. Welcome. Six weeks to process a DSP application is the guideline C/L have to follow, to come to an original decision. However, it can vary on many things. How thoroughly you prepare you case, and how determined they are to stop you. Pick up a DSP pack at your nearest Centrelink. Make a double booking with your GP, one to bring him up to date, and one for him to fill out the form. Ask him to print out all of your test records, and other specialist information, for you to lodge with the forms. You are given two forms, called Treating Doctors Reports, to use when applying. Have the second one filled out by some kind of specialist. Again, gather any additional information they can print out about your case. There is another part of the form which covers the whole of your personal life. And another which covers Income and Assets. Once you declare the condo overseas to them, they will probably become interested in your residency plans. You will have to be careful with all of that. Once you lodge the forms with Centrelink, you will have a JCA (Job Capacity Interview) booked for you. Take your medical information along with you to this, to refer to. We all focus on trying to prove our illness to this person. However, your ability to work is meant to be the main focus of their assessment. Most aren't well qualified medically anyway. Address the ways your condition affects your ability to hold down a job. They will try to identify 'barriers' to you working, and ways to fix same. (Not that they follow up with it anyway.) If they look like they don't believe you, ask to be referred by them for tests. They can do it and have to pay for it. Start asking them to prove that you are not sick. If you have an easy case to prove, and a JCA who is not a sadistic moron, you might be recommended for DSP within 2-3 weeks. Payments would commence shortly after. Lodge an FOI request form, requesting the JCA report, once it has been lodged with Centrelink. I forgot how long they have to submit it, but worth finding out, maybe 10 - 14 days. The decision regarding DSP is then made by Centrelink, sometime after receiving the JCA report. They will advise you by mail. If they have rejected your application, you then lodge your first appeal, by phone. The appeal process can take many many months. Again, if all goes smoothly, you can have it within weeks. Residency and your future plans for the condo will come heavily into play, due to these laws just coming into affect. If you get the run around, we will be hearing from you on the board over the next several months. Spacey, you are worth more money... see Banjo about it..... Banjo Cheque book please
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Post by Banjo on Jun 1, 2011 3:33:46 GMT 7
The cheques in the mail.
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Post by zorro1 on Jun 1, 2011 17:57:48 GMT 7
Hi Zorro. Welcome. Six weeks to process a DSP application is the guideline C/L have to follow, to come to an original decision. However, it can vary on many things. How thoroughly you prepare you case, and how determined they are to stop you. Pick up a DSP pack at your nearest Centrelink. Make a double booking with your GP, one to bring him up to date, and one for him to fill out the form. Ask him to print out all of your test records, and other specialist information, for you to lodge with the forms. You are given two forms, called Treating Doctors Reports, to use when applying. Have the second one filled out by some kind of specialist. Again, gather any additional information they can print out about your case. There is another part of the form which covers the whole of your personal life. And another which covers Income and Assets. Once you declare the condo overseas to them, they will probably become interested in your residency plans. You will have to be careful with all of that. Once you lodge the forms with Centrelink, you will have a JCA (Job Capacity Interview) booked for you. Take your medical information along with you to this, to refer to. We all focus on trying to prove our illness to this person. However, your ability to work is meant to be the main focus of their assessment. Most aren't well qualified medically anyway. Address the ways your condition affects your ability to hold down a job. They will try to identify 'barriers' to you working, and ways to fix same. (Not that they follow up with it anyway.) If they look like they don't believe you, ask to be referred by them for tests. They can do it and have to pay for it. Start asking them to prove that you are not sick. If you have an easy case to prove, and a JCA who is not a sadistic moron, you might be recommended for DSP within 2-3 weeks. Payments would commence shortly after. Lodge an FOI request form, requesting the JCA report, once it has been lodged with Centrelink. I forgot how long they have to submit it, but worth finding out, maybe 10 - 14 days. The decision regarding DSP is then made by Centrelink, sometime after receiving the JCA report. They will advise you by mail. If they have rejected your application, you then lodge your first appeal, by phone. The appeal process can take many many months. Again, if all goes smoothly, you can have it within weeks. Residency and your future plans for the condo will come heavily into play, due to these laws just coming into affect. If you get the run around, we will be hearing from you on the board over the next several months. Spacey Thank you so very much for sharing this info with me. You have short tracked my process considerably. Spoke to my gp today and he has referred me to a specialist, the same one that had my mother go on disability ( she had the same illness) I will keep all informed from day one. its all about the sharing cheers p.s In my case the condo has genuinely been up for sale in the last 6 months due to my life coming to a grinding halt and that changed the grand plan but not sure if i should be telling them all of this since they will only want to hear what "they want to hear" edit Actually I will declare and tell them everything. Shite happens in life and the plan was never to retire as an invalid, would much rather be earning the embarrassing amount of money I was on before this crudd happened . If I cant work i cant work that's what DSP is for
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Post by zorro1 on Jun 2, 2011 8:38:18 GMT 7
wow 1 month before I can see a specialist. June 30th. who knows DSP laws could easy change again by then
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Post by fred on Jun 2, 2011 13:45:01 GMT 7
its all about the sharing cheers Cheers, my brother....... I know where you are coming from, I have read your story...... Welcome, comrade, you are a welcome voice to join us in our struggle..... I hope, if you spend time and understand us, you will see our revolutionary vision emerging............................................
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 2, 2011 15:37:18 GMT 7
wow 1 month before I can see a specialist. June 30th. who knows DSP laws could easy change again by then Lol, yes, getting to see a specialist isn't easy these days. You could set the ball rolling, without the specialist's report. It is OK to lodge the other forms, with just one TDR. A booking for the JCA will be made, and you can give the specialist's report or information to the JCA officer, at that interview. However, the JCA interview is your last good chance to get it in before the decision is made. You would have an opportunity between the JCA report and the Centrelink decision, but then it could be decided by someone with no medical knowledge at all. So, best to let the JCA officer sum up its contents for Centrelink, and translate its meaning into their own terms. You can lodge extra information at any time, to be assessed at various stages of the appeal process. Good luck Zorro, hope all goes well for you.
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Post by zorro1 on Jun 2, 2011 20:08:13 GMT 7
Spacey Do they have to be lodged in person? can my son post them to me and then drop them in for me? Im still in Asia until the 28th
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 2, 2011 20:15:00 GMT 7
Hi Zorro
No, they have to be lodged in person. You also have to show proof of ID while you are there.
Spacey
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Post by spaceyone on Jun 2, 2011 20:22:30 GMT 7
If you have never dealt with Centrelink before, you will be surprised by the amount of paperwork they will require from you.
You have to supply them with a bank account number to put your payments into and show a birth certificate and/or passport. But you will also have to show payslips from the last time that you worked, statements from investment accounts, super funds, tax file number, rent/mortgage, etc, etc.
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Post by shockingasia on Jun 2, 2011 21:21:21 GMT 7
rang c/l last week and asked if the budget has affected the 13 week probation period and the girl replyed telling me its staying the same and commented something about it was to stop refugees comming over then comming back again to there countrys . my question is if im born in australia and lived here 90 percent of my life i would be in a better position as say a foreigner / refugee that had got P.R then applyed for dsp then shot off over sees returning ever 13 weeks.
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Post by Banjo on Jun 3, 2011 4:17:49 GMT 7
I've never heard the refugee take before. Sometimes I wonder what planet some Centrelink employees live on.....
Permanent residents have almost the same rights as citizens except, for example, voting. What they have to be careful when they are overseas is that their return visa doesn't expire which could prevent re entry. It's no big deal, many immigrants who arrived in Australia as long ago as the 50s have never bothered taking out Aussie citizenship. It virtually doesn't affect them until they travel overseas and then they have to watch that re entry visa.
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Post by zorro1 on Jun 7, 2011 16:40:54 GMT 7
If you have never dealt with Centrelink before, you will be surprised by the amount of paperwork they will require from you. You have to supply them with a bank account number to put your payments into and show a birth certificate and/or passport. But you will also have to show payslips from the last time that you worked, statements from investment accounts, super funds, tax file number, rent/mortgage, etc, etc. They will require bank statements no doubt. How far will they look back in general, or do i sign something and then they have access to my bank accounts permanently?
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Post by Banjo on Jun 7, 2011 16:56:50 GMT 7
It seems they do, when they investigated me this year they accessed my bank statements back ten years. I think they have permission as if they needed a warrant I suspect I would have heard. It's really no biggy if you are honest. I've never intended to defraud them or claim something that I'm not entitled to. I've made a big deal of this because they are trying to enforce portability and residency rules that have no basis in law.
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