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Post by tasjo on Nov 16, 2023 10:39:56 GMT 7
I would double check with International Services as having an appeal may exclude you applying at the same time, however with a DSP application you can do both so its fairly logical that an IP claim would follow the same process as a DSP claim.
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Post by bear on Nov 16, 2023 11:44:43 GMT 7
I would double check with International Services as having an appeal may exclude you applying at the same time, however with a DSP application you can do both so its fairly logical that an IP claim would follow the same process as a DSP claim. Ahhh...... perhaps it was a DSP appeal & claim I was thinking of tasjo I find it difficult to associate 'logic' and the department in the same sentence as well, due to the illogical decisions they've made on so many different issues. Cheers š»
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Post by tasjo on Nov 16, 2023 17:29:29 GMT 7
Trouble is, NDIS has the opposite as well... you cannot have a review and a new application at the same time. But, IP/UP for DSP and it's legislation does sit within Services Australia/centrelink rather than NDIS so it would make more 'sense' that it would follow the same rules.
All you could do in these circumstances (denied claim) would be to do both and see if you are contacted to see which you want to proceed with?
Edited to add: just be aware that generally centrelink would want to see 'new' information in a review or new application. So be prepared to include an update from your gp/specialist, any changes to your condition etc
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 16, 2023 19:59:59 GMT 7
I would double check with International Services as having an appeal may exclude you applying at the same time, however with a DSP application you can do both so its fairly logical that an IP claim would follow the same process as a DSP claim. thanks š appreciate it. I think I've done my homework to a reasonable extent at this point, so I'll just cross that bridge when and if I get to it. Fingers crossed. Currently working out an appointment to get a new psychiatrist report stating my zero work capacity and affirming/bolstering my 20 points, then I'm good to go apply I think. Should a report from one medical professional be sufficient? I'd considered getting two, but maybe just one good report will suffice?
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 16, 2023 20:05:32 GMT 7
Goodluck Shaheem! Cost of living is bloody dere back home for pensioners. Hope you get portability. Cheers J Hey pal, how ya doing? I was thinking about something and rembered you, as you'd be the person to ask. You know I mentioned going to PH. From what I know centerlink can reduce payments depending where you decide to go? Has that been the case with you if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by Top_dog on Nov 16, 2023 21:57:51 GMT 7
Goodluck Shaheem! Cost of living is bloody dere back home for pensioners. Hope you get portability. Cheers J Hey pal, how ya doing? I was thinking about something and rembered you, as you'd be the person to ask. You know I mentioned going to PH. From what I know centerlink can reduce payments depending where you decide to go? Has that been the case with you if you don't mind me asking? Full payment for 6 weeks, than you lose energy supplement payment continue to receive about $30 pension supplement
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 16, 2023 22:25:09 GMT 7
Hey pal, how ya doing? I was thinking about something and rembered you, as you'd be the person to ask. You know I mentioned going to PH. From what I know centerlink can reduce payments depending where you decide to go? Has that been the case with you if you don't mind me asking? Full payment for 6 weeks, than you lose energy supplement payment continue to receive about $30 pension supplement thanks for the response, so, specifically where you go is irrelevant? And you only ultimately lose energy supplement? Also, can you still receive rent assistance? Thanks
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 16, 2023 22:27:02 GMT 7
Full payment for 6 weeks, than you lose energy supplement payment continue to receive about $30 pension supplement thanks for the response, so, specifically where you go is irrelevant? And you only ultimately lose energy supplement? Also, can you still receive rent assistance? Thanks I feared that depending on where I go centerlink will pull a fast one and pay me peanuts š
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Post by bear on Nov 17, 2023 5:38:49 GMT 7
Full payment for 6 weeks, than you lose energy supplement payment continue to receive about $30 pension supplement thanks for the response, so, specifically where you go is irrelevant? And you only ultimately lose energy supplement? Also, can you still receive rent assistance? Thanks G'day Shaheem , yes it's irrelevant where you go and just as Top_dog advised. Whether you leave temporarily or permanently can impact when you'll lose the energy and other supplements though. Cheers š» "The travel rules for your main payment affect your Rent Assistance when you travel outside Australia. If you leave Australia to live in another country, your payment will stop when you depart. If your travel is short term, you'll get Rent Assistance for up to 26 weeks if you continue to pay rent in Australia." www.google.com/search?q=can+i+continue+to+receive+rent+assistance+when+travelling+overseas+dsp+Australia&client=msNote:- After 6 weeks adjusted payment is $1030.30 + R.A. if you receive it I guess.
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 17, 2023 16:29:33 GMT 7
thanks for the response, so, specifically where you go is irrelevant? And you only ultimately lose energy supplement? Also, can you still receive rent assistance? Thanks G'day Shaheem , yes it's irrelevant where you go and just as Top_dog advised. Whether you leave temporarily or permanently can impact when you'll lose the energy and other supplements though. Cheers š» "The travel rules for your main payment affect your Rent Assistance when you travel outside Australia. If you leave Australia to live in another country, your payment will stop when you depart. If your travel is short term, you'll get Rent Assistance for up to 26 weeks if you continue to pay rent in Australia." www.google.com/search?q=can+i+continue+to+receive+rent+assistance+when+travelling+overseas+dsp+Australia&client=msNote:-Ā After 6 weeks adjusted payment is $1030.30 + R.A. if you receive it I guess. Ah I see, so you receive zero rent assistance if you leave permanently? Hmm š¤ and you lose all the little supplements? Sounds like I'd be down a couple hundred bucks or so. That kinda sucks. I guess that basically forces you to go somewhere with extremely cheap cost of living to have a decent life
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Post by bear on Nov 17, 2023 19:39:36 GMT 7
G'day Shaheem , yes it's irrelevant where you go and just as Top_dog advised. Whether you leave temporarily or permanently can impact when you'll lose the energy and other supplements though. Cheers š» "The travel rules for your main payment affect your Rent Assistance when you travel outside Australia. If you leave Australia to live in another country, your payment will stop when you depart. If your travel is short term, you'll get Rent Assistance for up to 26 weeks if you continue to pay rent in Australia." www.google.com/search?q=can+i+continue+to+receive+rent+assistance+when+travelling+overseas+dsp+Australia&client=msNote:- After 6 weeks adjusted payment is $1030.30 + R.A. if you receive it I guess. Ah I see, so you receive zero rent assistance if you leave permanently? Hmm š¤ and you lose all the little supplements? Sounds like I'd be down a couple hundred bucks or so. That kinda sucks. I guess that basically forces you to go somewhere with extremely cheap cost of living to have a decent life Well R.A. is to help people with the cost of their accommodation in Australia and the energy supplement likewise and I've yet to find out how I can have my cake and eat it too.
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Post by Denis-NFA on Nov 17, 2023 20:09:26 GMT 7
ShaheemAs bear has said your payment will be $1030.30/fortnight which is the base pension plus the base allowance. The easiest place to find out indicated costs of living overseas is to check a site called www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/ which gives costs for cities and towns based on readers feedback. My personal choice but I live in a rural area of The Philippines and find the weather, life style, cost of living, ease of transport and political situation is far better and settled than what I would find anywhere back in Australia or anywhere else in the world. Thailand seems to be the most popular country for most forum members and you can read, or ask them, of their experiences of that country but I gather the benefits to them are the same or similar to my experience. Both Thailand and The Philippines have reasonable sized expat communities which you can also contact and Vietnam and Cambodia may be worth looking at as well. I certainly wouldn't even consider going to Europe or America. Have fun.
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 17, 2023 22:49:40 GMT 7
Ah I see, so you receive zero rent assistance if you leave permanently? Hmm š¤ and you lose all the little supplements? Sounds like I'd be down a couple hundred bucks or so. That kinda sucks. I guess that basically forces you to go somewhere with extremely cheap cost of living to have a decent life Well R.A. is to help people with the cost of their accommodation in Australia and the energy supplement likewise and I've yet to find out how I can have my cake and eat it too.Ā yeah, but what is the logic behind that? You have a pension which your entitled to. And you can take it wherever you please, as your entitled to, but if where you please just so happens to be anywhere other than Australia, you ain't getting jack for rent assistance. You get the short arms and deep pockets routine. What is the reasoning? That's all I'm saying. Who doesn't want to have their cake and eat it too? That's the whole point of having cake in the first place
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Post by Top_dog on Nov 17, 2023 22:55:36 GMT 7
G'day Shaheem , yes it's irrelevant where you go and just as Top_dog advised. Whether you leave temporarily or permanently can impact when you'll lose the energy and other supplements though. Cheers š» "The travel rules for your main payment affect your Rent Assistance when you travel outside Australia. If you leave Australia to live in another country, your payment will stop when you depart. If your travel is short term, you'll get Rent Assistance for up to 26 weeks if you continue to pay rent in Australia." www.google.com/search?q=can+i+continue+to+receive+rent+assistance+when+travelling+overseas+dsp+Australia&client=msNote:-Ā After 6 weeks adjusted payment is $1030.30 + R.A. if you receive it I guess. Ah I see, so you receive zero rent assistance if you leave permanently? Hmm š¤ and you lose all the little supplements? Sounds like I'd be down a couple hundred bucks or so. That kinda sucks. I guess that basically forces you to go somewhere with extremely cheap cost of living to have a decent life Definitely limits your options if you have no other source of passive income investments or quarterly dividends coming in. Iām fortunate position of receiving quarterly dividends and they are more than enough to cover rent for that period and some left over to save, or travel inside Thailand. Also have a read up on long term visa for the areas you are contemplating to see which one would best suit you. That can also be a deciding factor depending on age
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Post by Shaheem on Nov 17, 2023 22:57:27 GMT 7
ShaheemAs bear has said your payment will be $1030.30/fortnight which is the base pension plus the base allowance. The easiest place to find out indicated costs of living overseas is to check a site called www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/ which gives costs for cities and towns based on readers feedback. My personal choice but I live in a rural area of The Philippines and find the weather, life style, cost of living, ease of transport and political situation is far better and settled than what I would find anywhere back in Australia or anywhere else in the world. Thailand seems to be the most popular country for most forum members and you can read, or ask them, of their experiences of that country but I gather the benefits to them are the same or similar to my experience. Both Thailand and The Philippines have reasonable sized expat communities which you can also contact and Vietnam and Cambodia may be worth looking at as well. I certainly wouldn't even consider going to Europe or America. Have fun. thanks pal, appreciate it. Your in PH too huh? My mind's been made up for quite sometime, that is, if I do get UP, it's the Philippines. No question. For the reasons you mentioned and some additional ones. Thailand was my initial interest but not anymore. It's definitely PH. That's the place to be. Thailand definitely wins on the food front though š¤£ sorry Philippines but it's true
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